On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 at 09:23, Łukasz Langa lukasz@langa.pl wrote:
On Sep 29, 2018, at 08:50, M.-A. Lemburg mal@egenix.com wrote:
I hope it does, since otherwise python-committers is not only moving to discourse, but also losing its functionality as forum for core developers. We'd just have another python-dev or python-ideas forum.
I assume it's the faulty mailing list medium that made you miss my response to Barry where I say that this is indeed supported ;-)
See, Discourse would already save you a paragraph of worry. Why don't you try it out for a while and see how it feels? I understand the power of habit but I promise you that there's plenty of things that make the adjustment worthwhile.
I mentioned something similar on Discourse, but I'm going to add a comment here. This sort of dismissal of the validity of other people's long-established workflows is not very helpful. I use email, It's not because I've no idea how to use web forums, nor is it because I'm an old fuddy-duddy. It suits my workflow. I use a *lot* of web forums, as well as tools like Stack Overflow, reddit, Discord, etc. They simply do not always suit my requirements as well as email. Some examples:
- Pull technology rather than push. The fact that email is *delivered* to me is a critical benefit for certain types of interaction, and one that's far too easily dismissed by people who promote pull solutions. It's baffling to me that such a fundamental difference is routinely treated as "minor".
- Email-forum interfaces are in my experience uniformly suboptimal. I'm OK with the idea that I need to compromise and not expect people who prefer a forum to do all the work, but nevertheless, seeing the typical email response appear in a forum (with quoted text, signatures, etc) is very disruptive to conversation flow.
- Maintaining accounts for various bits of forum software is a pain when you use as many devices as I do.
- Browser tabs. Some of my devices are close to unusable *already* because of the RAM usage of my browser with multiple tabs open. Is someone going to suggest that there's a minimum hardware requirement to participate?
Can we please consider that people have a lot of investment in email, and being willing to try a new approach is a big commitment. Responding to valid concerns with "just try it, you'll like it" is pretty non-constructive.
Paul
PS I *am* trying Discourse out. I'm somewhat interested in a "better than email" solution. So this is emphatically *not* a "do things my way or I won't play" posting.