Committer rights for Nadeem Vawda
Hello,
I'd like to propose giving committer rights to Nadeem Vawda. He has submitted a number of patches since the beginning of the year, culminating with a complete rewrite of BZ2File in pure Python allowing to add new features (such as the support for arbitrary file-like objects) and maintain the code much more easily.
His name appears on 11 commits in the default branch.
Regards
Antoine.
On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> wrote:
I'd like to propose giving committer rights to Nadeem Vawda.
+1 to this proposal. Please ensure that Nadeem Vawda is "interested" too.
... and that he's interested in being a long-term contributor.
We don't benefit from having a large number of people with rarely used commit rights or folks that check-in a bunch of code and then disappear.
Raymond
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Raymond Hettinger <raymond.hettinger@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> wrote:
I'd like to propose giving committer rights to Nadeem Vawda.
+1 to this proposal. Please ensure that Nadeem Vawda is "interested" too.
... and that he's interested in being a long-term contributor.
We don't benefit from having a large number of people with rarely used commit rights or folks that check-in a bunch of code and then disappear.
OTOH I don't see much of a cost either to having folks with rarely-used commit rights (I am one myself :-), and I do see a risk in placing the bar for commit rights too high (I don't want the Python committers to be "growing old together"). So I think that it's enough to require that someone is interested (always assuming we trust them).
I don't know Nadeem or his work so I'd abstain on this specific vote, but the number of +1 votes (and lack of counter-votes) from people I trust is enough for me.
-- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
Le dimanche 03 avril 2011 à 11:51 -0700, Raymond Hettinger a écrit :
On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Senthil Kumaran wrote:
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> wrote:
I'd like to propose giving committer rights to Nadeem Vawda.
+1 to this proposal. Please ensure that Nadeem Vawda is "interested" too.
... and that he's interested in being a long-term contributor.
Nadeem told me he was interested in getting commit rights.
I deliberately don't ask about "being a long-term contributor", since participating in a FLOSS project is not like entering a marital relationship, and demanding such commitment would be, IMHO, misled. The mechanics of contribution are such that many of us probably didn't know they wanted to be long-term contributors by the time they started posting patches.
(what can be expected is some kind of reactivity if you come to be the dedicated maintainer of a piece of code, but that's not what we are discussing here)
A pragmatic reason for adding new developers is also that it relieves us existing developers of some of the work (of studying and committing patches from trusted people).
Regards
Antoine.
On 4/3/2011 3:17 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
A pragmatic reason for adding new developers is also that it relieves us existing developers of some of the work (of studying and committing patches from trusted people).
Right. This particular large and somewhat complex patch needed (greatly benefited from) your review, but for some easy bugfix patches, committing to multiple versions is more work than the patch itself.
Terry
On Apr 3, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 4/3/2011 3:17 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
A pragmatic reason for adding new developers is also that it relieves us existing developers of some of the work (of studying and committing patches from trusted people).
Right. This particular large and somewhat complex patch needed (greatly benefited from) your review, but for some easy bugfix patches, committing to multiple versions is more work than the patch itself.
Terry
I haven't seen anyone yet suggesting that we obtain a signed contributor agreement from Nadeem, but it's beginning to sound like that's the next step.
regards Steve
Steve Holden steve@holdenweb.com
Le dimanche 03 avril 2011 à 18:08 -0400, Steve Holden a écrit :
On Apr 3, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 4/3/2011 3:17 PM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
A pragmatic reason for adding new developers is also that it relieves us existing developers of some of the work (of studying and committing patches from trusted people).
Right. This particular large and somewhat complex patch needed (greatly benefited from) your review, but for some easy bugfix patches, committing to multiple versions is more work than the patch itself.
Terry
I haven't seen anyone yet suggesting that we obtain a signed contributor agreement from Nadeem, but it's beginning to sound like that's the next step.
We already have it (see below).
cheers
Antoine.
-------- Message transféré -------- De: Pat Campbell <patcam@python.org> À: PSF Members <psf-members@python.org>, PSF Board <psf@python.org> Sujet: [PSF-Members] Contributor Agreement - Nadeem Vawda Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 12:19:28 -0400
We received a contributor agreement from Nadeem Vawda by fax.
Thanks, Pat
-- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam@python.org
Hi,
Le dimanche 03 avril 2011 à 17:17 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
I'd like to propose giving committer rights to Nadeem Vawda. He has submitted a number of patches since the beginning of the year, culminating with a complete rewrite of BZ2File in pure Python allowing to add new features (such as the support for arbitrary file-like objects) and maintain the code much more easily.
Oh. I realized that I forgot to add him for his work on #10512 (and other related issues): fix ResourceWarning (unclosed files and sockets) in some tests, and sometimes in modules. Sorry for that.
+1 to give him the committer right.
Victor
On 4/3/2011 11:17 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
I'd like to propose giving committer rights to Nadeem Vawda. He has submitted a number of patches since the beginning of the year, culminating with a complete rewrite of BZ2File in pure Python allowing to add new features (such as the support for arbitrary file-like objects) and maintain the code much more easily.
Upon seeing the patch, I read the issue log, skimmed through the patch, and was duly impressed. The patch showed competence with .c, .py, and .rst files. Since you just added Nadeem to ACKS, I thought we should encourage more contributions.
His name appears on 11 commits in the default branch.
Given that more have already been made, I agree: +1
Terry
So, nobody seems to disagree and Nadeem's contributor agreement has been received some time ago. What is needed for this to go forward?
Regards
Antoine.
Le dimanche 03 avril 2011 à 17:17 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
Hello,
I'd like to propose giving committer rights to Nadeem Vawda. He has submitted a number of patches since the beginning of the year, culminating with a complete rewrite of BZ2File in pure Python allowing to add new features (such as the support for arbitrary file-like objects) and maintain the code much more easily.
His name appears on 11 commits in the default branch.
Regards
Antoine.
python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers
I just think we need to put the ssh key on the server. I know Brett can do it.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> wrote:
So, nobody seems to disagree and Nadeem's contributor agreement has been received some time ago. What is needed for this to go forward?
Regards
Antoine.
Le dimanche 03 avril 2011 à 17:17 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
Hello,
I'd like to propose giving committer rights to Nadeem Vawda. He has submitted a number of patches since the beginning of the year, culminating with a complete rewrite of BZ2File in pure Python allowing to add new features (such as the support for arbitrary file-like objects) and maintain the code much more easily.
His name appears on 11 commits in the default branch.
Regards
Antoine.
python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers
python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers
The devguide knows all: http://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev.html
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 06:11, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> wrote:
So, nobody seems to disagree and Nadeem's contributor agreement has been received some time ago. What is needed for this to go forward?
Regards
Antoine.
Le dimanche 03 avril 2011 à 17:17 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a écrit :
Hello,
I'd like to propose giving committer rights to Nadeem Vawda. He has submitted a number of patches since the beginning of the year, culminating with a complete rewrite of BZ2File in pure Python allowing to add new features (such as the support for arbitrary file-like objects) and maintain the code much more easily.
His name appears on 11 commits in the default branch.
Regards
Antoine.
python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers
python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers
Le jeudi 07 avril 2011 à 10:27 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit :
The devguide knows all: http://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev.html
Hmmm so I assume Nadeem should send his SSH key to pydotorg@python.org? Or?
Thanks
Antoine.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 06:11, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> wrote: So, nobody seems to disagree and Nadeem's contributor agreement has been received some time ago. What is needed for this to go forward? Regards Antoine.
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On 07/04/11 22:41, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le jeudi 07 avril 2011 à 10:27 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit :
The devguide knows all: http://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev.html
Hmmm so I assume Nadeem should send his SSH key to pydotorg@python.org? Or?
What is preventing me to send a fake SSH key to that acount, from a gmail address, saying "hi, this is Nadeem. You are waiting for this" ;-).
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On 07/04/11 22:41, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le jeudi 07 avril 2011 à 10:27 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit :
The devguide knows all: http://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev.html
Hmmm so I assume Nadeem should send his SSH key to pydotorg@python.org? Or?
What is preventing me to send a fake SSH key to that acount, from a gmail address, saying "hi, this is Nadeem. You are waiting for this" ;-).
Well, that would be fairly pointless considering you already have commit privs...
-- Regards, Benjamin
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On 08/04/11 04:25, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
What is preventing me to send a fake SSH key to that acount, from a gmail address, saying "hi, this is Nadeem. You are waiting for this" ;-).
Well, that would be fairly pointless considering you already have commit privs...
When I -slowly and sneaky- trojanize socket module and, additionally, add all the buildbots to my spambot network, I will not use my own SSH key.
I promise :).
I should quit IT security and grow vegetables somewhere... :-p
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 19:33, Jesus Cea <jcea@jcea.es> wrote:
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On 08/04/11 04:25, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
What is preventing me to send a fake SSH key to that acount, from a gmail address, saying "hi, this is Nadeem. You are waiting for this" ;-).
Well, that would be fairly pointless considering you already have commit privs...
When I -slowly and sneaky- trojanize socket module and, additionally, add all the buildbots to my spambot network, I will not use my own SSH key.
I promise :).
I should quit IT security and grow vegetables somewhere... :-p
As someone who did some security stuff as part of his PhD, I totally agree with that; get out of security or else it will make you paranoid.
-Brett
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On 08/04/11 04:36, Brett Cannon wrote:
I should quit IT security and grow vegetables somewhere... :-p
As someone who did some security stuff as part of his PhD, I totally agree with that; get out of security or else it will make you paranoid.
Too late. Being in the field for the last ~15 years cualifies me as "please, don't ask me what I do for a living in your party, if you expect to sleep comfy tonight".
Another side effect is the compulsory need to read everything tangentially related to security. Where can I find your PhD online? :).
(Congrats for your recent PhD!)
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On 08/04/11 04:48, Jesus Cea wrote:
Too late. Being in the field for the last ~15 years cualifies me as "please, don't ask me what I do for a living in your party, if you expect to sleep comfy tonight".
Do not ask me either why I am awake and using a computer at 04:50 AM Spanish time. Would be not nice to your blood pressure.
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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Brett Cannon <brett@python.org> wrote:
As someone who did some security stuff as part of his PhD, I totally agree with that; get out of security or else it will make you paranoid.
Nah, it just makes you very familiar with the concept of "calculated assumption of risk". You see the security risks and decide they're acceptable, given the degree of hassle involved in attempting to close or avoid them.
But don't *talk* about the risks to people that don't think the same way, or they'll start to look at you very strangely :)
Cheers, Nick.
-- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan@gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 13:41, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> wrote:
Le jeudi 07 avril 2011 à 10:27 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit :
The devguide knows all: http://docs.python.org/devguide/coredev.html
Hmmm so I assume Nadeem should send his SSH key to pydotorg@python.org? Or?
Nope, he can send them here to python-committers (you scared me the page actually said pydotorg@python.org).
Thanks
Antoine.
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 06:11, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net> wrote:
So, nobody seems to disagree and Nadeem's contributor agreement has been received some time ago. What is needed for this to go forward? Regards Antoine.
python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers
Le jeudi 07 avril 2011 à 19:36 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit :
Hmmm so I assume Nadeem should send his SSH key to pydotorg@python.org? Or?Nope, he can send them here to python-committers (you scared me the page actually said pydotorg@python.org).
Can someone (Georg, Brett, Eric?) act on Nadeem's subscription to python-committers? Otherwise his e-mails get bounced.
Thank you
Antoine.
On 04/09/2011 07:20 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le jeudi 07 avril 2011 à 19:36 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit :
Hmmm so I assume Nadeem should send his SSH key to pydotorg@python.org? Or?Nope, he can send them here to python-committers (you scared me the page actually said pydotorg@python.org).
Can someone (Georg, Brett, Eric?) act on Nadeem's subscription to python-committers? Otherwise his e-mails get bounced.
[Not sure if my first response got sent]
I usually wait for a commit message saying he's been added for a developer (which used to be developers.txt, I think). I haven't seen that yet. But assuming it's all a work in progress or the process has changed, I can okay his subscription when I get back to a real computer later today.
Eric.
Le samedi 09 avril 2011 à 09:52 -0400, Eric Smith a écrit :
On 04/09/2011 07:20 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le jeudi 07 avril 2011 à 19:36 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit :
Hmmm so I assume Nadeem should send his SSH key to pydotorg@python.org? Or?Nope, he can send them here to python-committers (you scared me the page actually said pydotorg@python.org).
Can someone (Georg, Brett, Eric?) act on Nadeem's subscription to python-committers? Otherwise his e-mails get bounced.
[Not sure if my first response got sent]
I usually wait for a commit message saying he's been added for a developer (which used to be developers.txt, I think).
Well, it's a bit circular: people are added to developers.txt when they have sent an SSH key. But the key is to be sent to python-committers, for which subscription depends on being added to developers.txt (and messages by non-subcribers are rejected).
I'm a bit mystified by the process too. It looks like there's no defined procedure.
Regards
Antoine.
On 09.04.2011 16:09, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le samedi 09 avril 2011 à 09:52 -0400, Eric Smith a écrit :
On 04/09/2011 07:20 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le jeudi 07 avril 2011 à 19:36 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit :
Hmmm so I assume Nadeem should send his SSH key to pydotorg@python.org? Or?Nope, he can send them here to python-committers (you scared me the page actually said pydotorg@python.org).
Can someone (Georg, Brett, Eric?) act on Nadeem's subscription to python-committers? Otherwise his e-mails get bounced.
[Not sure if my first response got sent]
I usually wait for a commit message saying he's been added for a developer (which used to be developers.txt, I think).
Well, it's a bit circular: people are added to developers.txt when they have sent an SSH key. But the key is to be sent to python-committers, for which subscription depends on being added to developers.txt (and messages by non-subcribers are rejected).
I'm a bit mystified by the process too. It looks like there's no defined procedure.
The procedure isn't clearly defined, yes. But in the past I've never seen such a big thread about it.
Proposal: create a keymanagement@python.org (or maybe just keys@python.org) alias that forwards to all current key managers (other than myself, these are Brett, Martin and a few others who haven't used the privilege recently).
Georg
Proposal: create a keymanagement@python.org (or maybe just keys@python.org) alias that forwards to all current key managers (other than myself, these are Brett, Martin and a few others who haven't used the privilege recently).
I had meant to create such a list for the past five years, and never got around to actually doing it. I think it would be very useful to have that address, though. Bikesheddingly, consider calling it hgaccounts@...
Regards, Martin
On 09.04.2011 21:05, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
Proposal: create a keymanagement@python.org (or maybe just keys@python.org) alias that forwards to all current key managers (other than myself, these are Brett, Martin and a few others who haven't used the privilege recently).
I had meant to create such a list for the past five years, and never got around to actually doing it. I think it would be very useful to have that address, though. Bikesheddingly, consider calling it hgaccounts@...
OK, this is now created and I've updated the devguide accordingly.
At the moment, the alias forwards to Brett, Antoine and myself. If anyone else feels like he'd like to update SSH keys, please tell me.
Georg
On 4/9/2011 9:52 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
On 04/09/2011 07:20 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Le jeudi 07 avril 2011 à 19:36 -0700, Brett Cannon a écrit :
Hmmm so I assume Nadeem should send his SSH key to pydotorg@python.org? Or?Nope, he can send them here to python-committers (you scared me the page actually said pydotorg@python.org).
Can someone (Georg, Brett, Eric?) act on Nadeem's subscription to python-committers? Otherwise his e-mails get bounced.
I just approved him.
Eric.
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"Martin v. Löwis" -
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Benjamin Peterson -
Brett Cannon -
Eric Smith -
Georg Brandl -
Guido van Rossum -
Jesse Noller -
Jesus Cea -
Nadeem Vawda -
Nick Coghlan -
Raymond Hettinger -
Senthil Kumaran -
Steve Holden -
Terry Reedy -
Victor Stinner