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joannah nanjekye

14 Apr 2020 14 Apr '20

10:12 p.m.

Hey all,

Unfortunately this year am too busy and cant even attend the language summit mostly. However if I knew the schedule, I could sign up for a session or two online.

Are we going to have recordings of the sessions this year given its a zoom? A chance to catch up later.

Best, Joannah Nanjekye

*"You think you know when you learn, are more sure when you can write, even more when you can teach, but certain when you can program." Alan J. Perlis*

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Brett Cannon

15 Apr 15 Apr

8:52 a.m.

joannah nanjekye wrote:

...

Hey all, Unfortunately this year am too busy and cant even attend the language summit mostly.

:( Sorry to hear that.

...

However if I knew the schedule, I could sign up for a session or two online.

Schedule can be found at https://us.pycon.org/2020/events/languagesummit/.

...

Are we going to have recordings of the sessions this year given its a zoom?

I personally don't know, but my guess is no for privacy reasons. But Jesse will be attending to write up a blog post about what occurs.

-Brett

...

A chance to catch up later. Best, Joannah Nanjekye "You think you know when you learn, are more sure when you can write, even more when you can teach, but certain when you can program." Alan J. Perlis

Gregory P. Smith

4:33 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:53 AM Brett Cannon brett@python.org wrote:

...

joannah nanjekye wrote:

...
Hey all, Unfortunately this year am too busy and cant even attend the language summit mostly.

:( Sorry to hear that.

...
However if I knew the schedule, I could sign up for a session or two online.

Schedule can be found at https://us.pycon.org/2020/events/languagesummit/.

...
Are we going to have recordings of the sessions this year given its a zoom?

I personally don't know, but my guess is no for privacy reasons. But Jesse will be attending to write up a blog post about what occurs.

-Brett

FWIW, I found it surprising to learn that there even was an online language summit happening (yesterday). I hadn't heard about that being planned at all.

Just because I said "no" to attending the physical one sometime in ~January doesn't mean I would've had the same response to joining an online one.

But I decided to dismiss this as "whatever" rather than a diss. I realize coordinating these things takes work and limiting attendance only to those who signed up for the physical one was probably easiest to transition the existing plans to.

I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details. Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this committers list or discourse forum. I expect I feel just like all of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a recurring basis. =)

Happy summiting! -gps

...

...
A chance to catch up later. Best, Joannah Nanjekye "You think you know when you learn, are more sure when you can write, even more when you can teach, but certain when you can program." Alan J. Perlis

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Eric V. Smith

6:40 p.m.

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I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details. Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this committers list or discourse forum. I expect I feel just like all of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a recurring basis. =)

Hi, Greg.

Here are the slides from my talk: https://github.com/ericvsmith/f-strings-by-default/raw/master/F-strings%20ev...

I can't decide if it's worth continuing my work on a PEP. I need to re-read and consider the various questions and suggestions from today. Thanks, everyone, for your input.

Eric

Barry Warsaw

8:32 p.m.

You should definitely finish your PEP!

-Barry

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On Apr 15, 2020, at 16:40, Eric V. Smith eric@trueblade.com wrote:

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I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details. Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this committers list or discourse forum. I expect I feel just like all of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a recurring basis. =)

Hi, Greg.

Here are the slides from my talk: https://github.com/ericvsmith/f-strings-by-default/raw/master/F-strings%20ev...

I can't decide if it's worth continuing my work on a PEP. I need to re-read and consider the various questions and suggestions from today. Thanks, everyone, for your input.

Eric

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Guido van Rossum

8:33 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 5:38 PM Eric V. Smith eric@trueblade.com wrote:

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I can't decide if it's worth continuing my work on a PEP. I need to re-read and consider the various questions and suggestions from today. Thanks, everyone, for your input.

Even if we decide not to do it, I think it would still be useful to have a PEP with the pros and cons of various design choices written up. Negative results are results too! (I think this was part of the original plan for PEPs, although right now I can't find it in PEP 0.)

F-strings are such a tremendous success that it's inevitable that making them the default will come up again, so the effort of writing up how it could be done and what problems it would encounter won't be a waste.

-- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) *Pronouns: he/him **(why is my pronoun here?)* http://feministing.com/2015/02/03/how-using-they-as-a-singular-pronoun-can-c...

Eric Snow

16 Apr 16 Apr

6:33 p.m.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:38 PM Eric V. Smith eric@trueblade.com wrote:

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Here are the slides from my talk: https://github.com/ericvsmith/f-strings-by-default/raw/master/F-strings%20ev...

Here are slides for my lightning talk ("A Retrospective on My “Multi-core Python” Project"):

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/16M3v1sEOJO0xoMW9qupAzyPsYLfseeWv9zXX...

-eric

joannah nanjekye

15 Apr 15 Apr

7:45 p.m.

...

I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details. Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this committers list or discourse forum. I expect I feel just like all of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a recurring basis. =)

I agree. I would love to follow along if people share slides. Especially I was looking forward to the hpy talk by PyPy's Antonio Cuni. So if anyone has a link to any written residues on this discussion, I will be happy to catch up on it.

Best, Joannah

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:33 PM Gregory P. Smith greg@krypto.org wrote:

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:53 AM Brett Cannon brett@python.org wrote:

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joannah nanjekye wrote:

...
Hey all, Unfortunately this year am too busy and cant even attend the language summit mostly.

:( Sorry to hear that.

...
However if I knew the schedule, I could sign up for a session or two online.

Schedule can be found at https://us.pycon.org/2020/events/languagesummit/ .

...
Are we going to have recordings of the sessions this year given its a zoom?

I personally don't know, but my guess is no for privacy reasons. But Jesse will be attending to write up a blog post about what occurs.

-Brett

FWIW, I found it surprising to learn that there even was an online language summit happening (yesterday). I hadn't heard about that being planned at all.

Just because I said "no" to attending the physical one sometime in ~January doesn't mean I would've had the same response to joining an online one.

But I decided to dismiss this as "whatever" rather than a diss. I realize coordinating these things takes work and limiting attendance only to those who signed up for the physical one was probably easiest to transition the existing plans to.

I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details. Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this committers list or discourse forum. I expect I feel just like all of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a recurring basis. =)

Happy summiting! -gps

...
...
A chance to catch up later. Best, Joannah Nanjekye "You think you know when you learn, are more sure when you can write, even more when you can teach, but certain when you can program." Alan J. Perlis

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-- Best, Joannah Nanjekye

*"You think you know when you learn, are more sure when you can write, even more when you can teach, but certain when you can program." Alan J. Perlis*

Mariatta

16 Apr 16 Apr

11:43 a.m.

Antonio Cuni has published his slides: https://speakerdeck.com/antocuni/hpy-a-future-proof-way-of-extending-python

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 5:46 PM joannah nanjekye nanjekyejoannah@gmail.com wrote:

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...
I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details. Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this committers list or discourse forum. I expect I feel just like all of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a recurring basis. =)

I agree. I would love to follow along if people share slides. Especially I was looking forward to the hpy talk by PyPy's Antonio Cuni. So if anyone has a link to any written residues on this discussion, I will be happy to catch up on it.

Best, Joannah

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:33 PM Gregory P. Smith greg@krypto.org wrote:

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:53 AM Brett Cannon brett@python.org wrote:

...
joannah nanjekye wrote:

...
Hey all, Unfortunately this year am too busy and cant even attend the language summit mostly.

:( Sorry to hear that.

...
However if I knew the schedule, I could sign up for a session or two online.

Schedule can be found at https://us.pycon.org/2020/events/languagesummit/.

...
Are we going to have recordings of the sessions this year given its a zoom?

I personally don't know, but my guess is no for privacy reasons. But Jesse will be attending to write up a blog post about what occurs.

-Brett

FWIW, I found it surprising to learn that there even was an online language summit happening (yesterday). I hadn't heard about that being planned at all.

Just because I said "no" to attending the physical one sometime in ~January doesn't mean I would've had the same response to joining an online one.

But I decided to dismiss this as "whatever" rather than a diss. I realize coordinating these things takes work and limiting attendance only to those who signed up for the physical one was probably easiest to transition the existing plans to.

I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details. Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this committers list or discourse forum. I expect I feel just like all of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a recurring basis. =)

Happy summiting! -gps

...
...
A chance to catch up later. Best, Joannah Nanjekye "You think you know when you learn, are more sure when you can write, even more when you can teach, but certain when you can program." Alan J. Perlis

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-- Best, Joannah Nanjekye

*"You think you know when you learn, are more sure when you can write, even more when you can teach, but certain when you can program." Alan J. Perlis*

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Stefan Behnel

3:03 a.m.

Gregory P. Smith schrieb am 15.04.20 um 23:33:

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FWIW, I found it surprising to learn that there even was an online language summit happening (yesterday). I hadn't heard about that being planned at all.

Just because I said "no" to attending the physical one sometime in ~January doesn't mean I would've had the same response to joining an online one.

But I decided to dismiss this as "whatever" rather than a diss. I realize coordinating these things takes work and limiting attendance only to those who signed up for the physical one was probably easiest to transition the existing plans to.

I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details. Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this committers list or discourse forum. I expect I feel just like all of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a recurring basis. =)

Happy summiting!

+1 to all of this, FWIW.

Stefan

Mariatta

12:16 p.m.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:10 AM Stefan Behnel stefan_ml@behnel.de wrote:

...

...
FWIW, I found it surprising to learn that there even was an online language summit happening (yesterday). I hadn't heard about that being planned at all.

Just because I said "no" to attending the physical one sometime in ~January doesn't mean I would've had the same response to joining an online one.

But I decided to dismiss this as "whatever" rather than a diss. I realize coordinating these things takes work and limiting attendance only to

Gregory P. Smith schrieb am 15.04.20 um 23:33: those

...
who signed up for the physical one was probably easiest to transition the existing plans to.

I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details. Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this committers list or discourse forum. I expect I feel just like all of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a recurring basis. =)

Happy summiting!

+1 to all of this, FWIW.

Stefan

I'm sorry for the lack of information and communication from our side. Please take into consideration that the idea of online language summit was conceived, planned, and organized within the past 30 days amidst the global covid-19 pandemic. As a comparison, we had begun planning for the in-person language summit since fall of 2019.

In our limited time and energy available, we as language summit chairs made the choice to prioritize those who were already prepared and committed to attend the in-person language summit, that they get the experienced we promised. Additionally, we haven't organized such online meeting discussion with 50 active participants before, we're still learning this new process and did not know how well it would go. So we decided to be conservative in our effort, and we chose to keep it a small manageable group.

I do recognize that we could at least have sent out an update to the community about the remote language summit, even if we couldn't take in additional participants. I'll definitely keep this in mind for future events.

Thank you for your understanding.

Victor Stinner

6:43 a.m.

Antonio Cuni's slides: "HPy: a future-proof way of extending Python?" https://speakerdeck.com/antocuni/hpy-a-future-proof-way-of-extending-python

Guido, Pablo: are your slides public? (Guido sent a link but I didn't know if it can be shared in public, moreover I lost the link :-))

Victor

Le mer. 15 avr. 2020 à 23:33, Gregory P. Smith greg@krypto.org a écrit :

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On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:53 AM Brett Cannon brett@python.org wrote:

...
joannah nanjekye wrote:

...
Hey all, Unfortunately this year am too busy and cant even attend the language summit mostly.

:( Sorry to hear that.

...
However if I knew the schedule, I could sign up for a session or two online.

Schedule can be found at https://us.pycon.org/2020/events/languagesummit/.

...
Are we going to have recordings of the sessions this year given its a zoom?

I personally don't know, but my guess is no for privacy reasons. But Jesse will be attending to write up a blog post about what occurs.

-Brett

FWIW, I found it surprising to learn that there even was an online language summit happening (yesterday). I hadn't heard about that being planned at all.

Just because I said "no" to attending the physical one sometime in ~January doesn't mean I would've had the same response to joining an online one.

But I decided to dismiss this as "whatever" rather than a diss. I realize coordinating these things takes work and limiting attendance only to those who signed up for the physical one was probably easiest to transition the existing plans to.

I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details. Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this committers list or discourse forum. I expect I feel just like all of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a recurring basis. =)

Happy summiting! -gps

...
...
A chance to catch up later. Best, Joannah Nanjekye "You think you know when you learn, are more sure when you can write, even more when you can teach, but certain when you can program." Alan J. Perlis

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Pablo Galindo Salgado

7:04 a.m.

Here are the slides for our talk about the new PEG parser:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1N_GaMjrLt1HUicbSwqC6QWGB751qj2RqtEqo...

Pablo

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020, 12:44 Victor Stinner, vstinner@python.org wrote:

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Antonio Cuni's slides: "HPy: a future-proof way of extending Python?" https://speakerdeck.com/antocuni/hpy-a-future-proof-way-of-extending-python

Guido, Pablo: are your slides public? (Guido sent a link but I didn't know if it can be shared in public, moreover I lost the link :-))

Victor

Le mer. 15 avr. 2020 à 23:33, Gregory P. Smith greg@krypto.org a écrit :

...
On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:53 AM Brett Cannon brett@python.org wrote:

...
joannah nanjekye wrote:

...
Hey all, Unfortunately this year am too busy and cant even attend the language summit mostly.

:( Sorry to hear that.

...
However if I knew the schedule, I could sign up for a session or two

...
...
Schedule can be found at

https://us.pycon.org/2020/events/languagesummit/.

...
...
Are we going to have recordings of the sessions this year given its a

zoom?

...
I personally don't know, but my guess is no for privacy reasons. But

Jesse will be attending to write up a blog post about what occurs.

...
-Brett

FWIW, I found it surprising to learn that there even was an online language summit happening (yesterday). I hadn't heard about that being

online. planned at all.

...
Just because I said "no" to attending the physical one sometime in

~January doesn't mean I would've had the same response to joining an online one.

...
But I decided to dismiss this as "whatever" rather than a diss. I

realize coordinating these things takes work and limiting attendance only to those who signed up for the physical one was probably easiest to transition the existing plans to.

...
I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details.

Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this committers list or discourse forum. I expect I feel just like all of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a recurring basis. =)

...
Happy summiting! -gps

...
...
A chance to catch up later. Best, Joannah Nanjekye "You think you know when you learn, are more sure when you can write,

even

...
...
...
more when you can teach, but certain when you can program." Alan J. Perlis

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M.-A. Lemburg

7:06 a.m.

Thanks for sending those references.

On 4/16/2020 2:04 PM, Pablo Galindo Salgado wrote:

...

Here are the slides for our talk about the new PEG parser:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1N_GaMjrLt1HUicbSwqC6QWGB751qj2RqtEqo...

Pablo

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020, 12:44 Victor Stinner, mailto:vstinner@python.org> wrote:

Antonio Cuni's slides:
"HPy: a future-proof way of extending Python?"
https://speakerdeck.com/antocuni/hpy-a-future-proof-way-of-extending-python

Guido, Pablo: are your slides public? (Guido sent a link but I didn't
know if it can be shared in public, moreover I lost the link :-))

Victor

Le mer. 15 avr. 2020 à 23:33, Gregory P. Smith <greg@krypto.org
<mailto:greg@krypto.org>> a écrit :
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 6:53 AM Brett Cannon <brett@python.org
<mailto:brett@python.org>> wrote:
>>
>> joannah nanjekye wrote:
>> > Hey all,
>> > Unfortunately this year am too busy and cant even attend the
language
>> > summit mostly.
>>
>> :( Sorry to hear that.
>>
>> > However if I knew the schedule, I could sign up for a session
or two online.
>>
>> Schedule can be found at
https://us.pycon.org/2020/events/languagesummit/.
>>
>> > Are we going to have recordings of the sessions this year given
its a zoom?
>>
>> I personally don't know, but my guess is no for privacy reasons.
But Jesse will be attending to write up a blog post about what occurs.
>>
>> -Brett
>
>
> FWIW, I found it surprising to learn that there even was an online
language summit happening (yesterday).  I hadn't heard about that
being planned at all.
>
> Just because I said "no" to attending the physical one sometime in
~January doesn't mean I would've had the same response to joining an
online one.
>
> But I decided to dismiss this as "whatever" rather than a diss.  I
realize coordinating these things takes work and limiting attendance
only to those who signed up for the physical one was probably
easiest to transition the existing plans to.
>
> I am reliant on summaries and anyone attending posting details. 
Everyone please share your slides if you have any that are
meaningful without a talk to go with them. At least to this
committers list or discourse forum.  I expect I feel just like all
of our non-travel-enabled colleagues who feel left out on a
recurring basis.  =)
>
> Happy summiting!
> -gps
>
>
>>
>>
>> > A chance to catch up later.
>> > Best,
>> > Joannah Nanjekye
>> > "You think you know when you learn, are more sure when you can
write, even
>> > more when you can teach, but certain when you can program."
Alan J. Perlis
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Barry Warsaw
Brett Cannon
Eric Snow
Eric V. Smith
Gregory P. Smith
Guido van Rossum
joannah nanjekye
M.-A. Lemburg
Mariatta
Pablo Galindo Salgado
Stefan Behnel
Victor Stinner

Language Summit

Are we going to have recordings of the sessions this year given its a zoom? A chance to catch up later.

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