Mailman 3 December 2000 - Python-Dev

plz test bsddb using shared linkage
by Skip Montanaro 31 Dec '00

31 Dec '00

oops, forgot the bug report is at http://sourceforge.net/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=126564&group_id=5470 for those of you who do not monitor python-bugs-list. S

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Fwd: try...else
by Mark Hammond 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

Spotted on c.l.python. Although Pythonwin is mentioned, python.exe gives the same results - as does 1.5.2. Seems a reasonable question... [Also, if Robin hasn't been invited to join us here, I think it could make some sense...] Mark. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: try...else Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:02:27 +0000 From: Robin Becker <robin(a)jessikat.fsnet.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python I had expected that in try: except: else the else clause always got executed, but it seems not for return PythonWin 2.0 (#8, Oct 16 2000, 17:27:58) [MSC 32 bit (Intel)] on win32.Portions Copyright 1994-2000 Mark Hammond (MarkH(a)ActiveState.com) - see 'Help/About PythonWin' for further copyright information. >>> def bang(): .... try: .... return 'return value' .... except: .... print 'bang failed' .... else: .... print 'bang succeeded' .... >>> bang() 'return value' >>> is this a 'feature' or bug. The 2.0 docs seem not to mention return/continue except for try finally. -- Robin Becker

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scp to sourceforge
by Guido van Rossum 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

I've seen a thread on this but there was no conclusive answer, so I'm reopening this. I can't SCP updated PEPs to the SourceForge machine. The "pep2html.py -i" command just hangs. I can ssh into shell.sourceforge.net just fine, but scp just hangs. "scp -v" prints a bunch of things suggesting that it can authenticate itself just fine, ending with these three lines: cj20424-a.reston1.va.home.com: RSA authentication accepted by server. cj20424-a.reston1.va.home.com: Sending command: scp -v -t . cj20424-a.reston1.va.home.com: Entering interactive session. and then nothing. It just sits there. Would somebody please figure out a way to update the PEPs? It's kind of pathetic to see the website not have the latest versions... --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

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Help wanted with setup.py script
by A.M. Kuchling 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

Want to help with the laudable goal of automating the Python build process? It'll need lots of testing on many different platforms, and I'd like to start the process now. First, download the setup.py script from http://www.amk.ca/files/python/setup.py Next, drop it in the root directory of your Python source tree and run "python setup.py build". If it dies with an exception, let me know. (Replies to this list are OK.) If it runs to completion, look in the Modules/build/lib.<something> directory to see which modules got built. (On my system, <something> is "linux-i686-2.0", but of course this will depend on your platform.) Is anything missing that should have been built? (_tkinter.so is the prime candidate; the autodetection code is far too simple at the moment and assumes one particular version of Tcl and Tk.) Did an attempt at building a module fail? These indicate problems autodetecting something, so if you can figure out how to find the required library or include file, let me know what to do. --amk

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Bookstore completed
by A.M. Kuchling 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

OK, I think I'm ready to declare the Python bookstore complete enough to go public. Before I set up redirects from www.python.org, please take another look. (More book descriptions would be helpful...) http://www.amk.ca/bookstore/ --amk

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Miscellaneous 2.0 installation issues
by Eric S. Raymond 28 Dec '00

28 Dec '00

I have 2.0 up and running on RH7.0, compiled from sources. In the process, I discovered a couple of issues: 1. The curses module is commented out in the default Modules/Setup file. This is not good, as it may lead careless distribution builders to ship Python 2.0s that will not be able to support the curses front end in CML2. Supporting CML2 (and thus getting Python the "design win" of being involved in the Linux kernel build) was the major point of integrating the curses module into the Python core. It is possible that one little "#" may have blown that. 2.The default Modules/Setup file assumes that various Tkinter-related libraries are in /usr/local. But /usr would be a more appropriate choice under most circumstances. Most Linux users now install their Tcl/Tk stuff from RPMs or .deb packages that place the binaries and libraries under /usr. Under most other Unixes (e.g. Solaris) they were there to begin with. 3. The configure machinery could be made to deduce more about the contents of Modules/Setup than it does now. In particular, it's silly that the person building Python has to fill in the locations of X librasries when configure is in principle perfectly capable of finding them. -- <a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a> Our society won't be truly free until "None of the Above" is always an option.

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RE: [Python-checkins] CVS: python/dist/src/Misc python-mode.el,3.108,3.109
by Tim Peters 28 Dec '00

28 Dec '00

[Barry Warsaw] > Modified Files: > python-mode.el > Log Message: > (python-font-lock-keywords): Add highlighting of `as' as a keyword, > but only in "import foo as bar" statements (including optional > preceding `from' clause). Oh, that's right, try to make IDLE look bad, will you? I've got half a mind to take up the challenge. Unfortunately, I only have half a mind in total, so you may get away with this backstabbing for a while <wink>.

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Re: [Patches] [Patch #102813] _cursesmodule: Add panel support
by Thomas Wouters 27 Dec '00

27 Dec '00

On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 07:07:03AM -0800, noreply(a)sourceforge.net wrote: > * Guido-style: 8-column hard-tab indents. > * New style: 4-column space-only indents. Hm, I must have missed this... Is 'new style' the preferred style, as its name suggests, or is Guido mounting a rebellion to adhere to the One True Style (or rather his own version of it, which just has the * in pointer type declarations wrong ? :) -- Thomas Wouters <thomas(a)xs4all.net> Hi! I'm a .signature virus! copy me into your .signature file to help me spread!

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sourceforge: problems with bug list?
by Charles G Waldman 27 Dec '00

27 Dec '00

Is it just me, or is anybody else getting this error when trying to access the bug list? > An error occured in the logger. ERROR: pg_atoi: error in "5470/": > can't parse "/"

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Tkinter support under RH 7.0?
by Eric S. Raymond 25 Dec '00

25 Dec '00

I just upgraded to Red Hat 7.0 and installed Python 2.0. Anybody have a recipe for making Tkinter support work in this environment? -- <a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a> "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." -- George Washington, in a speech of January 7, 1790

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