Mailman 3 May 2001 - Python-Dev

non-mutating 'choose' to go with 'dict.popitem'?
by Greg Wilson May 9, 2001

May 9, 2001

Has anyone else found themselves wanting a method that chooses and returns a dictionary element at random, without removing it (as popitem does)? Or is there some way to tell popitem to return a value without mutating the container? If neither, would this be useful, or is it DHG? Thanks Greg

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Re: [Python-Dev] Recent change to termios module breaks build on FreeBSD
by Michael Hudson May 8, 2001

May 8, 2001

"Fred L. Drake, Jr." <fdrake(a)acm.org> writes: > Michael Hudson writes: > > If you don't include termio.h the build breaks on alpha/OSF1. This > > sounds to me like OSF1's headers are broken (you can't include > > sys/ioctl.h without including termio.h first, it seems, or you get > > complaints about struct termio being undefined). So I'd suggest > > > > +#ifdef __osf__ > > #include <termio.h> > > +#endif > > &… [View More]

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Re: [Python-Dev] Moving MacPython to sourceforge
by Jack Jansen May 8, 2001

May 8, 2001

> I'd say merge, except that the number '1000' is very large. Is it really > 1000 ? The current Python tree contains only 304 .c and .h files, about 1000 > .py files spread out over the tree (567 of which in Lib, the rest in > Demo/Tools) and obviously some misc files and CVS stuff, for a total of > around 2500 files. Is that 1000 a real number ? No temp files, > auto-generated files, .o files etc ? How large are they ? (the average size > in the current CVS tree is about … [View More]

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Recent change to termios module breaks build on FreeBSD
by Favas, Mark (EM, Floreat) May 8, 2001

May 8, 2001

A change to termios.c in the last couple of days to #include termio.h as well as termios.h breaks the build on FreeBSD, which has only termios.h - needs an autoconf test? There'll probably be other similar systems. Cheers, Mark

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Re: [Python-Dev] Recent change to termios module breaks build on FreeBSD
by Michael Hudson May 8, 2001

May 8, 2001

Guido van Rossum <guido(a)digicool.com> writes: > > A change to termios.c in the last couple of days to #include termio.h > > as well as termios.h breaks the build on FreeBSD, which has only > > termios.h - needs an autoconf test? There'll probably be other similar > > systems. > > Frankly, I don't see the point of including termio.h at all -- it > seems to be a backwards compatibility file. If you don't include termio.h the build breaks on alpha/OSF1. … [View More]

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Re: [Python-Dev] Moving MacPython to sourceforge
by Jack Jansen May 8, 2001

May 8, 2001

> We have platform-specific subdirectories for so many projects that > it's a shame we don't have the Mac code in there as well! Great! I'll pack up my repository and send it to the sourceforge-powers-that-be shortly. The write permission for other MacPython developers shouldn't be a problem, I think Just is currently the only person with write permission (but I have to check). > (Jack, regarding your Makefile and setup.py changes: I'd wait for > opinions on your patches from … [View More]

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Moving MacPython to sourceforge
by Jack Jansen May 8, 2001

May 8, 2001

Folks, now that there's finally a decent (well, somewhat decent:-) Mac CVS client that supports ssh I'd like to move MacPython to sourceforge. There's two ways I can go about this: start a new MacPython project or merge the MacPython stuff into the main Python CVS repository. The Mac specific stuff for Python is all concentrated in a single subtree Mac of the main Python tree (the subtree has its own hierarchy of Python/Modules/Lib/etc directories), so putting it in the main repository … [View More]

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Multiple inheritance
by Paul F. Dubois May 8, 2001

May 8, 2001

Pardon if this is brief and suggestive only, I am on deadlines. Super is a mistaken concept in multiple inheritance languages. Fortunately, Python is not brain-damaged. Its multiple inheritance model can be fixed easily to be fully capable. Here is a suggestive example of implementing the Eiffel model (the only one that is theoretically sound) using "pretend" Python syntax (keyword conservationists might like "import" where I have "rename"): 1. The simple case, X inherits from Y and in … [View More]

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Help with SF bug 105470
by Tim Peters May 7, 2001

May 7, 2001

An ancient bug just got (re?)discovered on c.l.py, which I entered into SF: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=422177&group_id=5470& atid=105470 This has to do w/ gross loss of precision in manifest Python float constants, if and only if a module is loaded from .pyc or .pyo format. Since's it's fp-related, and fp is tricky x-platform, I'd like some volunteers to test this before I check it in. Current CVS Python contains a dormant test case. There's a patch … [View More]

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Moving MacPython to sourceforge
by Martin v. Loewis May 7, 2001

May 7, 2001

> I don't know much about modules, but would this allow Jack to check > out the main code and the MacPython code into a single work > directory (which he needs)? Using CVS modules allows to merge parts of the tree into a single sandbox. E.g. you could do macpython python/dist/src &Mac 'cvs co macpython' then would give you a dist/src directory, which also contains a Mac directory (where Mac is another module, alongside with /python, or a CVSROOT/modules entry). You could use an … [View More]

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