Mailman 3 July 2001 - Python-Dev

[development doc updates]
by Fred L. Drake July 10, 2001

July 10, 2001

The development version of the documentation has been updated: http://python.sourceforge.net/devel-docs/ Updated to reflect the recent checkins for the Python/C API manual, which cover a number of the object creation and initialization functions.

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Re: [Python-checkins] CVS: python/dist/src/Include rangeobject.h,2.16,2.17
by Thomas Wouters July 9, 2001

July 9, 2001

On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 06:24:46AM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Update of /cvsroot/python/python/dist/src/Include > In directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv8011 > > Modified Files: > rangeobject.h > Log Message: > Rip out the fancy behaviors of xrange that nobody uses: repeat, slice, > contains, tolist(), and the start/stop/step attributes. This includes > removing the 4th ('repeat') argument to PyRange_New(). Eek... What do we have the fucking warning … [View More]

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Re: [Python-checkins] CVS: python/dist/src/Include rangeobject.h,2.16,2.17
by Greg Ball July 9, 2001

July 9, 2001

> but I don't see a problem with that. I also left out the 'contains' > implementation. > Still-not-understanding-*why*-<wink>-ly y'rs, In the fine tradition of xrange, that 'contains' implementation is slightly broken. It doesn't have proper object equality semantics. Python 2.1 (#1, Jul 4 2001, 14:48:37) [GCC 2.96 20000731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-81)] on linux2 Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> r, xr = range(10), xrange(10) >… [View More]

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Re: [Python-Dev] Python and e-art
by Samuele Pedroni July 9, 2001

July 9, 2001

[Tim Peters] > all's-fair-in-war-and-art-ly y'rs - tim and commerce] No I was not much positively impressed by biennale.py, e.g. as a Program is not a work of art. I think something more along the line of perl (my bad) poetry, would be better than a self-replicating juxtaposition of body soul and fornicate etc (as identifiers) <wink>. It's a poor representation of "sex" ...

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Python and e-art
by Samuele Pedroni July 9, 2001

July 9, 2001

Hi. For the curious I just discovered this (maybe someone knew that already). Isn't python incredible <wink>. A group of e-artists has presented an e-art "virus" biennale.py written in python: http://www.0100101110101101.org/home/biennale_py/ at the Biennale, the famous international contemporary art exposition and gathering in Venezia. It seems a t-shirt with the source code is available too. Samuele Pedroni.

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Re: [Python-Dev] Re: [Python-checkins] CVS: python/dist/src/Include rangeobject.h,2.16,2.17
by Jack Jansen July 7, 2001

July 7, 2001

Recently, Guido van Rossum <guido(a)digicool.com> said: > Sobering thought: It's possible, given all the other changes that I'm > thinking about, that it just won't be possible to make Python 2.2 > fully backwards compatible. Should we rename it to 3.0? Forget about > the changes? Label it as experimental and encourage ISPs to install > it as an "alternative" version, only available by using "python2.2"? In this respect you should also think of the people Embedding/… [View More]

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Re: Comment on PEP-0238
by Skip Montanaro July 7, 2001

July 7, 2001

Guido> "Emile van Sebille" <emile(a)fenx.com> writes: >> If you're going to add keywords, why not add precision and allow >> those who want non-integer division to set it to the level of >> precision they require. That breaks no more code (presumably) than >> adding div or yield does. Guido> I'm not sure what you're asking about. If you're serious, please Guido> submit a PEP! This is the time to do it. Posting to the Guido&… [View More]

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from future import yield
by Martin von Loewis July 7, 2001

July 7, 2001

> Regarding the yield statement: I'd love to require a future statement, > but the current support for future statements doesn't support > modifying the parser based on the presence of future statements, and I > don't know how to resolve that, short of totally rewriting the parser > or scanning ahead looking for a future statement with some regular > expression. The "directive" patch manages to conditionally introduce a new keyword, namely directive. The trick is to introduce … [View More]

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Re: Comment on PEP-0238
by Skip Montanaro July 7, 2001

July 7, 2001

Guido> (Hm. For various reasons I'm very tempted to introduce 'yield' Guido> as a new keyword without warnings or future statements in Python Guido> 2.2, so maybe I should bite the bullet and add 'div' as well...) C//> If one is going to add keywords to a language, I suggest that a C//> list of possible future keywords -- even ones that aren't planned C//> on being supported any time soon -- be reserved at the same time. And that warnings be issued for … [View More]

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"Becoming", rev. 2
by Andrew Kuchling July 7, 2001

July 7, 2001

Another update: http://www.amk.ca/python/writing/python-dev.html Added a section on design principles, mostly so I can quote Tim's 19 theses, a conclusion and acks sections, and the previously posted descriptions of Stackless, Jython, and Python.NET. At this point I'm ready to go more public with it, and will send off notes to the usual places to announce it. Don't hesitate to send more comments, before or after any announcements go out. Now I have to go sleepy-dodos or I shall be all … [View More]

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