Mailman 3 November 2002 - Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] extended python
by Michael Hudson 04 Nov '02

04 Nov '02

martin(a)v.loewis.de (Martin v. Loewis) writes: > Sve <Sve(a)softserv.attunity.co.il> writes: > > > Can You pls help us with extended python on Open VMS platform. > > No. python-help is for the discussion of the future development *of* ^^^^^^^^^^^ Martin meant python-dev here... > Python, not for the development *with* python. Please use > python-list(a)python.org instead. This bit is still right. Cheers, M. -- FORD: Just pust the fish in your ear, come on, it's only a little one. ARTHUR: Uuuuuuuuggh! -- The Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, Episode 1

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regex parsing error
by Brondo, Greg 04 Nov '02

04 Nov '02

AssertionError: sorry, but this version only supports 100 named groups. I'm getting this error in the latest Python 2.2. Is there any fix for this yet? Thanks! Greg B.

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extended python
by Sve 04 Nov '02

04 Nov '02

Hello! Can You pls help us with extended python on Open VMS platform. We already extended python on NT (with DLL). How we have to create same C code on Open VMS. Best Regards Svetlana Stolyarov Project Manager Attunity Software ServicesLtd. t +972-4-990-9966 ext.114 m +972-50-972-509 www.attunity.com

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David Goodger joins PEP editor
by barry＠python.org 04 Nov '02

04 Nov '02

Just a quick note to let folks know that David Goodger has joined the PEP editors. He'll be doing most of the editor's work, but I'll still provide backup help as necessary. This should greatly improve the responsiveness of the PEP editors <wink>. Please continue to use peps(a)python.org for all correspondence about the PEPs, as this will reach both David and myself. Thanks David! -Barry

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Becoming a python contributor
by Gustavo Niemeyer 04 Nov '02

04 Nov '02

Hello! After a long time of inactivity, I hope to be back to some python hacking. Before getting into any coding, I'd like to discuss with you some conceptual and boring stuff I have in my mind. In the past I have given small contributions to the python standard distribution. Unfortunately (for myself), I slowed down until I stopped contributing, even though I have a great affect by the interpreter. Now I realize that one of the reasons I've stopped contributing is because there's a large inertia in getting stuff reviewed. The reason why this is happening seems more aparent now that I was off for a while: there's a small core of very busy developers working on core/essential/hard stuff *and* in code reviewing as well. At the same time, I've seen Guido and others bothered a few times because of the lack of man power. So the question is: how do I, a developer which feels capable of helping in python's development, can get some of the tasks which take your time out of your hands? Or even, how is it possible to improve some part of the development process by giving people like me some instructions? Also, isn't it easy to point out what's wrong in a commit from someone who is following the development process for a while than taking the time to review its code in the sourceforge patch system? My feeling is that the Python development is currently overly centralized, and that you might be suffering from that now, by being unable to handover some of your tasks to someone else. I feel that everytime I send a patch, besides being contributing, I'm also overloading you with more stuff to review and comment and etc. Perhaps the fallback costs for some wrong commit is too high now (did I heard someone mentioning subversion?)?! Could someone please discuss that issues with me, and perhaps just kick me away saying that I'm crazy? :-) -- Gustavo Niemeyer [ 2AAC 7928 0FBF 0299 5EB5 60E2 2253 B29A 6664 3A0C ]

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PEP270 (list.uniq())
by Padraig Brady 04 Nov '02

04 Nov '02

Hi Jason, I was just reading this and it seems to overlap with: http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0218.html I.E. uniq is equivalent to union (with self). wrt to the uniq command line tool, if you've 2 files a & b, then: uniq a b = union uniq -u a b = difference uniq -d a b = intersection So uniq really is a set operation and if Python had a set builtin type then I'm not sure a uniq method would be required? Perhaps the list object could support the union operator so to uniqify a list you could do: mylist |= mylist cheers, Pádraig.

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Low hanging fruit
by Neal Norwitz 03 Nov '02

03 Nov '02

Here's the lowest hanging fruit I could find. Maybe some of these can be fixed/closed: These bugs/patches seem quite easy to close/fix based on last comment: http://python.org/sf/464405 - freeze doesn't like DOS files on Linux http://python.org/sf/534669 - remember to sync trees http://python.org/sf/599836 - Bugfix for urllib2.py this is closed, but should urllib also be fixed? http://python.org/sf/626570 - strptime() always returns 0 in dst field http://python.org/sf/627900 - Bytecode copy bug in freeze http://python.org/sf/618146 - overflow error in calendar module http://python.org/sf/569668 - LINKCC incorrectly set These bugs/patches may be relatively easy fix: http://python.org/sf/527521 - httplib strict mode fails in 2.2.2 http://python.org/sf/570655 - bdist_rpm and the changelog option http://python.org/sf/622537 - dummy_thread.py implementation http://python.org/sf/623464 - tempfile crashes http://python.org/sf/622831 - textwrap fails on unicode using defaults (didn't Greg have the fix on python-dev?) http://python.org/sf/622849 - inconsistent results of leading whitespace in textwrap input http://python.org/sf/630195 - bdist_rpm target breaks with rpm 4.1 http://python.org/sf/594893 - printing email object deletes whitespace

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Weekly Python Bug/Patch Summary
by Skip Montanaro 03 Nov '02

03 Nov '02

Bug/Patch Summary ----------------- 321 open / 2999 total bugs (+1) 99 open / 1752 total patches (+3) New Bugs -------- FAIL: test_crlf_separation (email.test.t (2002-10-28) http://python.org/sf/629756 int("123123123123123123") doesn't work (2002-10-28) http://python.org/sf/629989 bdist_rpm target breaks with rpm 4.1 (2002-10-28) http://python.org/sf/630195 expat causes a core dump (2002-10-29) http://python.org/sf/630494 Dialogs too tight on OSX (2002-10-29) http://python.org/sf/630818 __all__ as determiner of a module's api (2002-10-30) http://python.org/sf/631055 Mac OS 10 configure problem (2002-10-30) http://python.org/sf/631247 https via httplib trips over IIS defect (2002-10-31) http://python.org/sf/631683 Tkinter (?) refct (?) bug (2002-11-01) http://python.org/sf/632323 Typo string instead of sting in LibDoc (2002-11-03) http://python.org/sf/632864 New Patches ----------- Add a sample selection method to random.py (2002-10-27) http://python.org/sf/629637 telnetlib.py: don't block on IAC and enhancement (2002-10-29) http://python.org/sf/630829 Exceptions raised by line trace function (2002-10-30) http://python.org/sf/631276 New pdb command "pp" (2002-10-31) http://python.org/sf/631678 Punycode encoding (2002-11-02) http://python.org/sf/632643 Closed Bugs ----------- HP-UX: Problem building socket (2001-10-29) http://python.org/sf/475951 __del__ docs need update (2001-12-13) http://python.org/sf/492619 buffer object API description truncated (2002-02-17) http://python.org/sf/518775 corefile: python 2.1.3, zope 2.5.0 (2002-04-17) http://python.org/sf/545410 python -v sometimes fails to find init (2002-05-02) http://python.org/sf/551504 import _tkinter python dumps core. (2002-08-21) http://python.org/sf/598160 overflow error in calendar module (2002-10-03) http://python.org/sf/618146 KeyPress bindings don't work (2002-10-23) http://python.org/sf/627798 Closed Patches -------------- names in types module (2002-06-15) http://python.org/sf/569328 HTTP Auth support for xmlrpclib (2002-10-16) http://python.org/sf/624180

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Contributing...current bug status
by Neal Norwitz 02 Nov '02

02 Nov '02

I've downloaded and formatted the 325 bugs in SF. Here's a breakdown of bugs by category (before I changed some of the Nones to an appropriate category): Build 18 Demos and Tools 8 Distutils 29 Documentation 39 Extension Modules 15 IDLE 1 Installation 8 Macintosh 23 None 19 Parser/Compiler 3 Python Interpreter Core 26 Python Library 78 Regular Expressions 14 Threads 7 Tkinter 11 Type/class unification 8 Unicode 6 Windows 16 XML 5 There's more detail available in html format here: http://www.metaslash.com/py/sf.data.html gnumeric file here: http://www.metaslash.com/py/sf.data.gnumeric text (tab separated) here: http://www.metaslash.com/py/sf.data.txt The info shown is: SF id #, Summary, Date Submitted, Assigned To, Submitted By, Category, Comments, Date of Last Comment. Current sort criteria is by Category, then by Date Submitted. Bugs fall into many categories including: platform specific, duplicates (e.g., RE max recursion), cannot be reproduced, believed to be fixed, but the submitter has not verified the fix, feature requests, and of course plain bugs. I may try to work up another list of the bugs which are almost fixed. Meaning, bugs which need verification or have a proposed fix attached. It would be great if people could go through topics of interest to them and help fix problems in that category. Many of the bugs in the 'Python Library' are web related (ie, cgi, htmllib, urllib[2], etc). Neal

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