Mailman 3 August 2002 - Python-Dev

Re: [Python-Dev] PEP 218 (sets); moving set.py to Lib
by Guido van Rossum Aug. 30, 2002

Aug. 30, 2002

[Michael McLay] > > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/python/python/nondist/sandbo > >x/sets/set.py?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup > > Did you consider making BaseSet._data a slot? Hm, maybe I should. If this is a proposed standard data type, we might as well get people used to the fact that they can't add random new instance variables without subclassing first. OTOH what then to do with _sort_repr -- make it a class var or an instance var? --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

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SF Bug #602245: os.popen() negative error code IOError
by Delaney, Timothy Aug. 30, 2002

Aug. 30, 2002

I just submitted a bug at SF entitled 'os.popen() negative error code IOError'. However, not knowing SF too well, I've messed up the formatting of the test code, so here it is. When a negative return code is received by the os.popen() family, an IOError is raised when the last pipe from the process is closed. The following code demonstrates the problem: import sys import os import traceback import sys import os import traceback if __name__ == '__main__': if len(sys.argv) == 1: try: r = os.popen('%s %s %s' % (sys.executable, sys.argv[0], -1,)) r.close() except IOError: traceback.print_exc() try: w, r = os.popen2('%s %s %s' % (sys.executable, sys.argv[0], -1,)) w.close() r.close() except IOError: traceback.print_exc() try: w, r, e = os.popen3('%s %s %s' % (sys.executable, sys.argv[0], -1,)) w.close() r.close() e.close() except IOError: traceback.print_exc() else: sys.exit(int(sys.argv[1])) ---------- Run ---------- Traceback (most recent call last): File "Q:\Viper\src\webvis\tests\test.py", line 11, in ? r.close() IOError: (0, 'Error') Traceback (most recent call last): File "Q:\Viper\src\webvis\tests\test.py", line 18, in ? r.close() IOError: (0, 'Error') Traceback (most recent call last): File "Q:\Viper\src\webvis\tests\test.py", line 26, in ? e.close() IOError: (0, 'Error') Tim Delaney

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ANN: New PEP Format: reStructuredText
by David Goodger Aug. 30, 2002

Aug. 30, 2002

With many thanks to Barry Warsaw for his help and patience, I am pleased to announce that a new format for PEPs (Python Enhancement Proposals) has been deployed. The new format is reStructuredText, a lightweight what-you-see-is-what-you-get plaintext markup syntax and parser component of the Docutils project. From the new PEP 12: ReStructuredText is offered as an alternative to plaintext PEPs, to allow PEP authors more functionality and expressivity, while maintaining easy readability in the source text. The processed HTML form makes the functionality accessible to readers: live hyperlinks, styled text, tables, images, and automatic tables of contents, among other advantages. The following PEPs have been marked up with reStructuredText: - PEP 12 -- Sample reStructuredText PEP Template (http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0012.html) - PEP 256 -- Docstring Processing System Framework (http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0256.html) - PEP 257 -- Docstring Conventions (http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0257.html) - PEP 258 -- Docutils Design Specification (http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0258.html) - PEP 287 -- reStructuredText Docstring Format (http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0287.html) - PEP 290 -- Code Migration and Modernization (http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0290.html) In addition, the text of PEP 1 and PEP 9 has been revised. Authors of new PEPs are invited to consider using the new format, and authors of existing PEPs are invited to convert their PEPs to reStructuredText to take advantage of the many enhancements over the plaintext format. I, along with the other Docutils developers and users, will be happy to assist. Please send questions to: docutils-users(a)lists.sourceforge.net The latest project snapshot can always be downloaded from: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docutils-snapshot.tgz (This is required to process the PEP source into HTML. It requires at least Python 2.0; Python 2.1 or later is recommended.) Docutils and reStructuredText are under active development. Input is very welcome, especially HTML rendering/stylesheet issues with different browsers. We welcome new contributors. If you'd like to get involved, please visit: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/ -- David Goodger <goodger(a)users.sourceforge.net> Open-source projects: - Python Docutils: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/ (includes reStructuredText: http://docutils.sf.net/rst.html) - The Go Tools Project: http://gotools.sourceforge.net/

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PEP 12 -- Sample reStructuredText PEP Template
by David Goodger Aug. 30, 2002

Aug. 30, 2002

This PEP presents an alternative format to that of PEP 9. Feedback is welcome. -- David Goodger PEP: 12 Title: Sample reStructuredText PEP Template Version: $Revision: 1.3 $ Last-Modified: $Date: 2002/08/30 04:11:20 $ Author: David Goodger <goodger(a)users.sourceforge.net>, Barry A. Warsaw <barry(a)zope.com> Status: Active Type: Informational Content-Type: text/x-rst Created: 05-Aug-2002 Post-History: 30-Aug-2002 Abstract ======== This PEP provides a boilerplate or sample template for creating your own reStructuredText PEPs. In conjunction with the content guidelines in PEP 1 [1]_, this should make it easy for you to conform your own PEPs to the format outlined below. Note: if you are reading this PEP via the web, you should first grab the text (reStructuredText) source of this PEP in order to complete the steps below. **DO NOT USE THE HTML FILE AS YOUR TEMPLATE!** To get the source of this (or any) PEP, look at the top of the HTML page and click on the link titled "PEP Source". If you would prefer not to use markup in your PEP, please see PEP 9, "Sample Plaintext PEP Template" [2]_. Rationale ========= PEP submissions come in a wide variety of forms, not all adhering to the format guidelines set forth below. Use this template, in conjunction with the format guidelines below, to ensure that your PEP submission won't get automatically rejected because of form. ReStructuredText is offered as an alternative to plaintext PEPs, to allow PEP authors more functionality and expressivity, while maintaining easy readability in the source text. The processed HTML form makes the functionality accessible to readers: live hyperlinks, styled text, tables, images, and automatic tables of contents, among other advantages. For an example of a PEP marked up with reStructuredText, see PEP 287. How to Use This Template ======================== To use this template you must first decide whether your PEP is going to be an Informational or Standards Track PEP. Most PEPs are Standards Track because they propose a new feature for the Python language or standard library. When in doubt, read PEP 1 for details or contact the PEP editors <peps(a)python.org>. Once you've decided which type of PEP yours is going to be, follow the directions below. - Make a copy of this file (``.txt`` file, **not** HTML!) and perform the following edits. - Replace the "PEP: 9" header with "PEP: XXX" since you don't yet have a PEP number assignment. - Change the Title header to the title of your PEP. - Leave the Version and Last-Modified headers alone; we'll take care of those when we check your PEP into CVS. - Change the Author header to include your name, and optionally your email address. Be sure to follow the format carefully: your name must appear first, and it must not be contained in parentheses. Your email address may appear second (or it can be omitted) and if it appears, it must appear in angle brackets. It is okay to obfuscate your email address. - If there is a mailing list for discussion of your new feature, add a Discussions-To header right after the Author header. You should not add a Discussions-To header if the mailing list to be used is either python-list(a)python.org or python-dev(a)python.org, or if discussions should be sent to you directly. Most Informational PEPs don't have a Discussions-To header. - Change the Status header to "Draft". - For Standards Track PEPs, change the Type header to "Standards Track". - For Informational PEPs, change the Type header to "Informational". - For Standards Track PEPs, if your feature depends on the acceptance of some other currently in-development PEP, add a Requires header right after the Type header. The value should be the PEP number of the PEP yours depends on. Don't add this header if your dependent feature is described in a Final PEP. - Change the Created header to today's date. Be sure to follow the format carefully: it must be in ``dd-mmm-yyyy`` format, where the ``mmm`` is the 3 English letter month abbreviation, i.e. one of Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May, Jun, Jul, Aug, Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec. - For Standards Track PEPs, after the Created header, add a Python-Version header and set the value to the next planned version of Python, i.e. the one your new feature will hopefully make its first appearance in. Do not use an alpha or beta release designation here. Thus, if the last version of Python was 2.2 alpha 1 and you're hoping to get your new feature into Python 2.2, set the header to:: Python-Version: 2.2 - Leave Post-History alone for now; you'll add dates to this header each time you post your PEP to python-list(a)python.org or python-dev(a)python.org. If you posted your PEP to the lists on August 14, 2001 and September 3, 2001, the Post-History header would look like:: Post-History: 14-Aug-2001, 03-Sept-2001 You must manually add new dates and check them in. If you don't have check-in privileges, send your changes to the PEP editors. - Add a Replaces header if your PEP obsoletes an earlier PEP. The value of this header is the number of the PEP that your new PEP is replacing. Only add this header if the older PEP is in "final" form, i.e. is either Accepted, Final, or Rejected. You aren't replacing an older open PEP if you're submitting a competing idea. - Now write your Abstract, Rationale, and other content for your PEP, replacing all this gobbledygook with your own text. Be sure to adhere to the format guidelines below, specifically on the prohibition of tab characters and the indentation requirements. - Update your References and Copyright section. Usually you'll place your PEP into the public domain, in which case just leave the Copyright section alone. Alternatively, you can use the `Open Publication License`__, but public domain is still strongly preferred. __ http://www.opencontent.org/openpub/ - Leave the Emacs stanza at the end of this file alone, including the formfeed character ("^L", or ``\f``). - Send your PEP submission to the PEP editors at peps(a)python.org. ReStructuredText PEP Formatting Requirements ============================================ The following is a PEP-specific summary of reStructuredText syntax. For the sake of simplicity and brevity, much detail is omitted. For more detail, see `Resources`_ below. `Literal blocks`_ (in which no markup processing is done) are used for examples throughout, to illustrate the plaintext markup. General ------- You must adhere to the Emacs convention of adding two spaces at the end of every sentence. You should fill your paragraphs to column 70, but under no circumstances should your lines extend past column 79. If your code samples spill over column 79, you should rewrite them. Tab characters must never appear in the document at all. A PEP should include the standard Emacs stanza included by example at the bottom of this PEP. Section Headings ---------------- PEP headings must begin in column zero and the initial letter of each word must be capitalized as in book titles. Acronyms should be in all capitals. Section titles must be adorned with an underline, a single repeated punctuation character, which begins in column zero and must extend at least as far as the right edge of the title text (4 characters minimum). First-level section titles are underlined with "=" (equals signs), second-level section titles with "-" (hyphens), and third-level section titles with "'" (single quotes or apostrophes). For example:: First-Level Title ================= Second-Level Title ------------------ Third-Level Title ''''''''''''''''' If there are more than three levels of sections in your PEP, you may insert overline/underline-adorned titles for the first and second levels as follows:: ============================ First-Level Title (optional) ============================ ----------------------------- Second-Level Title (optional) ----------------------------- Third-Level Title ================= Fourth-Level Title ------------------ Fifth-Level Title ''''''''''''''''' You shouldn't have more than five levels of sections in your PEP. If you do, you should consider rewriting it. You must use two blank lines between the last line of a section's body and the next section heading. If a subsection heading immediately follows a section heading, a single blank line in-between is sufficient. The body of each section is not normally indented, although some constructs do use indentation, as described below. Blank lines are used to separate constructs. Paragraphs ---------- Paragraphs are left-aligned text blocks separated by blank lines. Paragraphs are not indented unless they are part of an indented construct (such as a block quote or a list item). Inline Markup ------------- Portions of text within paragraphs and other text blocks may be styled. For example:: Text may be marked as *emphasized* (single asterisk markup, typically shown in italics) or **strongly emphasized** (double asterisks, typically boldface). ``Inline literals`` (using double backquotes) are typically rendered in a monospaced typeface. No further markup recognition is done within the double backquotes, so they're safe for any kind of code snippets. Block Quotes ------------ Block quotes consist of indented body elements. For example:: This is a paragraph. This is a block quote. A block quote may contain many paragraphs. Block quotes are used to quote extended passages from other sources. Block quotes may be nested inside other body elements. Use 4 spaces per indent level. Literal Blocks -------------- .. In the text below, double backquotes are used to denote inline literals. "``::``" is written so that the colons will appear in a monospaced font; the backquotes (``) are markup, not part of the text. See "Inline Markup" above. By the way, this is a comment, described in "Comments" below. Literal blocks are used for code samples or preformatted ASCII art. To indicate a literal block, preface the indented text block with "``::``" (two colons). The literal block continues until the end of the indentation. Indent the text block by 4 spaces. For example:: This is a typical paragraph. A literal block follows. :: for a in [5,4,3,2,1]: # this is program code, shown as-is print a print "it's..." # a literal block continues until the indentation ends The paragraph containing only "``::``" will be completely removed from the output; no empty paragraph will remain. "``::``" is also recognized at the end of any paragraph. If immediately preceded by whitespace, both colons will be removed from the output. When text immediately precedes the "``::``", *one* colon will be removed from the output, leaving only one colon visible (i.e., "``::``" will be replaced by "``:``"). For example, one colon will remain visible here:: Paragraph:: Literal block Lists ----- Bullet list items begin with one of "-", "*", or "+" (hyphen, asterisk, or plus sign), followed by whitespace and the list item body. List item bodies must be left-aligned and indented relative to the bullet; the text immediately after the bullet determines the indentation. For example:: This paragraph is followed by a list. * This is the first bullet list item. The blank line above the first list item is required; blank lines between list items (such as below this paragraph) are optional. * This is the first paragraph in the second item in the list. This is the second paragraph in the second item in the list. The blank line above this paragraph is required. The left edge of this paragraph lines up with the paragraph above, both indented relative to the bullet. - This is a sublist. The bullet lines up with the left edge of the text blocks above. A sublist is a new list so requires a blank line above and below. * This is the third item of the main list. This paragraph is not part of the list. Enumerated (numbered) list items are similar, but use an enumerator instead of a bullet. Enumerators are numbers (1, 2, 3, ...), letters (A, B, C, ...; uppercase or lowercase), or Roman numerals (i, ii, iii, iv, ...; uppercase or lowercase), formatted with a period suffix ("1.", "2."), parentheses ("(1)", "(2)"), or a right-parenthesis suffix ("1)", "2)"). For example:: 1. As with bullet list items, the left edge of paragraphs must align. 2. Each list item may contain multiple paragraphs, sublists, etc. This is the second paragraph of the second list item. a) Enumerated lists may be nested. b) Blank lines may be omitted between list items. Definition lists are written like this:: what Definition lists associate a term with a definition. how The term is a one-line phrase, and the definition is one or more paragraphs or body elements, indented relative to the term. Tables ------ Simple tables are easy and compact:: ===== ===== ======= A B A and B ===== ===== ======= False False False True False False False True False True True True ===== ===== ======= There must be at least two columns in a table (to differentiate from section titles). Column spans use underlines of hyphens ("Inputs" spans the first two columns):: ===== ===== ====== Inputs Output ------------ ------ A B A or B ===== ===== ====== False False False True False True False True True True True True ===== ===== ====== Text in a first-column cell starts a new row. No text in the first column indicates a continuation line; the rest of the cells may consist of multiple lines. For example:: ===== ========================= col 1 col 2 ===== ========================= 1 Second column of row 1. 2 Second column of row 2. Second line of paragraph. 3 - Second column of row 3. - Second item in bullet list (row 3, column 2). ===== ========================= Hyperlinks ---------- When referencing an external web page in the body of a PEP, you should include the title of the page in the text, with either an inline hyperlink reference to the URL or a footnote reference (see `Footnotes`_ below). Do not include the URL in the body text of the PEP. Hyperlink references use backquotes and a trailing underscore to mark up the reference text; backquotes are optional if the reference text is a single word. For example:: In this paragraph, we refer to the `Python web site`_. An explicit target provides the URL. Put targets in a References section at the end of the PEP, or immediately after the reference. Hyperlink targets begin with two periods and a space (the "explicit markup start"), followed by a leading underscore, the reference text, a colon, and the URL (absolute or relative):: .. _Python web site: http://www.python.org/ The reference text and the target text must match (although the match is case-insensitive and ignores differences in whitespace). Note that the underscore trails the reference text but precedes the target text. If you think of the underscore as a right-pointing arrow, it points *away* from the reference and *toward* the target. The same mechanism can be used for internal references. Every unique section title implicitly defines an internal hyperlink target. We can make a link to the Abstract section like this:: Here is a hyperlink reference to the `Abstract`_ section. The backquotes are optional since the reference text is a single word; we can also just write: Abstract_. Footnotes containing the URLs from external targets will be generated automatically at the end of the References section of the PEP, along with footnote references linking the reference text to the footnotes. Text of the form "PEP x" or "RFC x" (where "x" is a number) will be linked automatically to the appropriate URLs. Footnotes --------- Footnote references consist of a left square bracket, a number, a right square bracket, and a trailing underscore:: This sentence ends with a footnote reference [1]_. Whitespace must precede the footnote reference. Leave a space between the footnote reference and the preceding word. When referring to another PEP, include the PEP number in the body text, such as "PEP 1". The title may optionally appear. Add a footnote reference following the title. For example:: Refer to PEP 1 [2]_ for more information. Add a footnote that includes the PEP's title and author. It may optionally include the explicit URL on a separate line, but only in the References section. Footnotes begin with ".. " (the explicit markup start), followed by the footnote marker (no underscores), followed by the footnote body. For example:: References ========== .. [2] PEP 1, "PEP Purpose and Guidelines", Warsaw, Hylton (http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0001.html) If you decide to provide an explicit URL for a PEP, please use this as the URL template:: http://www.python.org/peps/pep-xxxx.html PEP numbers in URLs must be padded with zeros from the left, so as to be exactly 4 characters wide, however PEP numbers in the text are never padded. During the course of developing your PEP, you may have to add, remove, and rearrange footnote references, possibly resulting in mismatched references, obsolete footnotes, and confusion. Auto-numbered footnotes allow more freedom. Instead of a number, use a label of the form "#word", where "word" is a mnemonic consisting of alphanumerics plus internal hyphens, underscores, and periods (no whitespace or other characters are allowed). For example:: Refer to PEP 1 [#PEP-1]_ for more information. References ========== .. [#PEP-1] PEP 1, "PEP Purpose and Guidelines", Warsaw, Hylton http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0001.html Footnotes and footnote references will be numbered automatically, and the numbers will always match. Once a PEP is finalized, auto-numbered labels should be replaced by numbers for simplicity. Images ------ If your PEP contains a diagram, you may include it in the processed output using the "image" directive:: .. image:: diagram.png Any browser-friendly graphics format is possible: .png, .jpeg, .gif, .tiff, etc. Since this image will not be visible to readers of the PEP in source text form, you should consider including a description or ASCII art alternative, using a comment (below). Comments -------- A comment block is an indented block of arbitrary text immediately following an explicit markup start: two periods and whitespace. Leave the ".." on a line by itself to ensure that the comment is not misinterpreted as another explicit markup construct. Comments are not visible in the processed document. For the benefit of those reading your PEP in source form, please consider including a descriptions of or ASCII art alternatives to any images you include. For example:: .. image:: dataflow.png .. Data flows from the input module, through the "black box" module, and finally into (and through) the output module. The Emacs stanza at the bottom of this document is inside a comment. Escaping Mechanism ------------------ reStructuredText uses backslashes ("``\``") to override the special meaning given to markup characters and get the literal characters themselves. To get a literal backslash, use an escaped backslash ("``\\``"). There are two contexts in which backslashes have no special meaning: `literal blocks`_ and inline literals (see `Inline Markup`_ above). In these contexts, no markup recognition is done, and a single backslash represents a literal backslash, without having to double up. If you find that you need to use a backslash in your text, consider using inline literals or a literal block instead. Habits to Avoid =============== Many programmers who are familiar with TeX often write quotation marks like this:: `single-quoted' or ``double-quoted'' Backquotes are significant in reStructuredText, so this practice should be avoided. For ordinary text, use ordinary 'single-quotes' or "double-quotes". For inline literal text (see `Inline Markup`_ above), use double-backquotes:: ``literal text: in here, anything goes!`` Resources ========= Many other constructs and variations are possible. For more details about the reStructuredText markup, in increasing order of thoroughness, please see: * `A ReStructuredText Primer`__, a gentle introduction. __ http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/rst/quickstart.html * `Quick reStructuredText`__, a users' quick reference. __ http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/rst/quickref.html * `reStructuredText Markup Specification`__, the final authority. __ http://docutils.sourceforge.net/spec/rst/reStructuredText.html The processing of reStructuredText PEPs is done using Docutils_. If you have a question or require assistance with reStructuredText or Docutils, please `post a message`_ to the `Docutils-Users mailing list`_. The `Docutils project web site`_ has more information. .. _Docutils: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/ .. _post a message: mailto:docutils-users@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=PEPs .. _Docutils-Users mailing list: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/docutils-users .. _Docutils project web site: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/ References ========== .. [1] PEP 1, PEP Purpose and Guidelines, Warsaw, Hylton (http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0001.html) .. [2] PEP 9, Sample Plaintext PEP Template, Warsaw (http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0009.html) Copyright ========= This document has been placed in the public domain. .. Local Variables: mode: indented-text indent-tabs-mode: nil sentence-end-double-space: t fill-column: 70 End:

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single ticker patch
by Skip Montanaro Aug. 30, 2002

Aug. 30, 2002

Here's a single ticker patch: http://python.org/sf/602191 It also gets rid of the private ticker in longobject.c. Skip

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Rehashing in PyDict_Copy
by Raymond Hettinger Aug. 29, 2002

Aug. 29, 2002

Is there a reason that dict.copy() runs like an update()? It creates a new dict object, then re-hashes and inserts every element one-by-one, complete with collisions. I would have expected a single pass to update refcounts, an allocation for identical size, and a memcpy to polish it off. Raymond

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Re: [Python-checkins] python/dist/src/Lib/test test_grammar.py,1.41,1.42 tokenize_tests.py,1.3,1.4
by Michael Hudson Aug. 29, 2002

Aug. 29, 2002

bwarsaw(a)users.sourceforge.net writes: > Update of /cvsroot/python/python/dist/src/Lib/test > In directory usw-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv31010/Lib/test > > Modified Files: > test_grammar.py tokenize_tests.py > Log Message: > Quite down some FutureWarnings. Barry, is this why these tests have started to fail? Cheers, M. -- I love the way Microsoft follows standards. In much the same manner that fish follow migrating caribou. -- Paul Tomblin -- http://home.xnet.com/~raven/Sysadmin/ASR.Quotes.html

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lots of test failures...
by Skip Montanaro Aug. 29, 2002

Aug. 29, 2002

Just cvs up'd and got a bunch of test failures on my Linux box: 12 tests failed: test___all__ test_cookie test_descrtut test_difflib test_doctest test_doctest2 test_generators test_grammar test_inspect test_pyclbr test_sundry test_tokenize Several failed looking for a missing attribute "testmod", e.g.: test test_generators crashed -- exceptions.AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'testmod' Here's the test_tokenize output: test test_tokenize produced unexpected output: ********************************************************************** *** mismatch between lines 127-138 of expected output and lines 127-138 of actual output: - 42,17-42,29: NUMBER '020000000000' ? ^^ + 42,17-42,30: NUMBER '020000000000L' ? ^^ + - 42,29-42,30: NEWLINE '\n' ? ^^ ^ + 42,30-42,31: NEWLINE '\n' ? ^^ ^ - 43,0-43,12: NUMBER '037777777777' ? ^ + 43,0-43,13: NUMBER '037777777777L' ? ^ + - 43,13-43,15: OP '!=' ? ^ ^ + 43,14-43,16: OP '!=' ? ^ ^ - 43,16-43,17: OP '-' ? ^ ^ + 43,17-43,18: OP '-' ? ^ ^ - 43,17-43,18: NUMBER '1' ? ^ ^ + 43,18-43,19: NUMBER '1' ? ^ ^ - 43,18-43,19: NEWLINE '\n' ? ------ + 43,19-43,20: NEWLINE '\n' ? ++++++ - 44,0-44,10: NUMBER '0xffffffff' ? ^ + 44,0-44,11: NUMBER '0xffffffffL' ? ^ + - 44,11-44,13: OP '!=' ? ^ ^ + 44,12-44,14: OP '!=' ? ^ ^ - 44,14-44,15: OP '-' ? ^ ^ + 44,15-44,16: OP '-' ? ^ ^ - 44,15-44,16: NUMBER '1' ? ^ ^ + 44,16-44,17: NUMBER '1' ? ^ ^ - 44,16-44,17: NEWLINE '\n' ? ^ ^ + 44,17-44,18: NEWLINE '\n' ? ^ ^ ********************************************************************** I'll look more closely in the morning. It's too late to investigate now. Skip

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Sourceforge CVS repository behaving strange?
by Jack Jansen Aug. 29, 2002

Aug. 29, 2002

Either my brain needs to be pushed into gear or the CVS repository is behaving very strange. About half an hour ago I added and checked in a file Mac/OSX/setupDocs.py, but after I did another cvs update the file immediately disappeared with the message that it was no longer in the repository. And if I check the repository over the web (at http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi- bin/viewcvs.cgi/python/python/dist/src/Mac/OSX/) the file is indeed gone. Moreover, if I look there the other files (such as the Makefile) *also* seem to be gone. But cvs update doesn't think they're gone, and doing a fresh checkout also makes them appear as they should (but it does not revive setupDocs.py:-(). Hmm, together with checking in setupDocs.py I also added an entry to Misc/ACKS, lemme check... No Misc/ACKS in viewcvs... Actually, there are no files at all in viewcvs, just directories! I am now utterly confused, can someone shed light on this? -- - Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com> http://www.cwi.nl/~jack - - If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman -

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Re: PEP 282 Implementation
by Michael Chermside Aug. 28, 2002

Aug. 28, 2002

>> - setRollover(): the explanation isn't 100% clear. I *think* that you >> always write to "app.log", and when that's full, you rename it to >> app.log.1, and app.log.1 gets renamed to app.log.2, and so on, and >> then you start writing to a new app.log, right? > > Yes. The original implementation was different - it just closed the current > file and opened a new file app.log.n. The current implementation is slightly > slower due to the need to rename several files, but the user can tell more > easily which the latest log file is. I will update the setRollover() > docstring to indicate more clearly how it works; I'm assuming that the > current algorithm is deemed good enough. Why not have the current logfile named "app.log", and when it's full rename it as "app.log.n" (for the approprite value of n)? It's still easy to find the current log file, there's only one file to rename, and the obvious sort order will put the files in chronlogical order not reverse chronological order. The only downside that's obvious to me is that if you just clear out old log files by deleting all but the latest 3, then your numbers will keep increasing over time. But I hardly see that as a problem... if you find that a filename of "app.log.143" really drives you crazy you can just rename the remaining logfiles the next time you clean out the log directory and everything's fine. -- Michael Chermside

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