Mailman 3 August 2003 - Python-Dev

JOBS: Python Technical Lead & Head of Data Quality Assurance, NYC
by Kandidates 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

If you are interested in a position, please review the requirements and reply with your salary requirement. My clients main concern with these positions is Python. Elaborating on your knowledge of Python when replying will greatly increase your chances of landing an interview. JOB #1: Python Technical Lead, New York, NY DETAILS: http://www.nyc-search.com/jobs/python.html JOB #2: Head of Data Quality Assurance, New York, NY DETAILS: http://www.nyc-search.com/jobs/headQA.html Thank you, Beau J. Gould Kandidates.com Python Jobs Yahoo Group >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pythonjobs

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Outlook release on SourceForge
by Tim Peters 13 Aug '03

13 Aug '03

[pyton-dev'ers, read the last paragraph and weep <wink>] I created a "Outlook Addin" package on the spambayes file release page, and added Mark's 0.7 installer to it: http://sf.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61702 I also ripped off much of the text from Mark's Starship page (this is what you get to if you click on the "Version 0.7" on the page above): http://sf.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=177282 Mark, if you object to any of this, don't be shy! Meaningless statistics <wink>: Project UNIX name: spambayes Registered: 2002-09-03 22:33 Activity Percentile (last week): 99.4015% "Activity ratings" on SF are computed by an arcane formula, but generally speaking the higher the percentile the more "active" a project is. With the percentile above, this is how many SF projects rank below spambayes: >>> round(66620 * 0.994015) 66221.0 >>> In particular, we rank higher than Python(!) now, which currently sits at 99.0583%. Python used to be among the 10 most active projects every week, but lost a lot when it stopped releasing files from SF (downloads count a lot toward the activity ranking). It's possible that downloads of the Outlook addin could boost spambayes to that lofty level. It's also possible that I'll get a job working on Python someday <wink/snarl>.

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JOBS: Python Technical Lead & Head of Data Quality Assurance, NYC
by Kandidates 12 Aug '03

12 Aug '03

If you are interested in a position, please review the requirements and reply with your salary requirement. My clients main concern with these positions is Python. Elaborating on your knowledge of Python when replying will greatly increase your chances of landing an interview. JOB #1: Python Technical Lead, New York, NY DETAILS: http://www.nyc-search.com/jobs/python.html JOB #2: Head of Data Quality Assurance, New York, NY DETAILS: http://www.nyc-search.com/jobs/headQA.html Thank you, Beau J. Gould Kandidates.com Python Jobs Yahoo Group >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pythonjobs

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Updating PEP 308
by A.M. Kuchling 12 Aug '03

12 Aug '03

PEP 308, the ternary operator PEP, doesn't specify the results of the vote and still has the status of "Draft". Anyone want to update it to include the vote results and change it to "Rejected"? --amk

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Slogan: Getting Rich Overnight
by Christian Tismer 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

Dear friends. During a conversation with good friends and newly acquired Pythonista, we were discussing Python, what it is in essence, and what it is giving to us. The people were Dinu Gherman, Giorgio Giacomazzi, a promizing newcomer in the Python noosphere, and myself. We were discussing how to advertize for Python, and Dinu spread some of the recent library enhancements, like - email package - XML parsers - distutils - add lots of other great stuff, here. Then, after a while of silence, Giorgio said something like """ Well, right. But despite of the libraries, I was hit by pure Python, by the following, simply by using it interactively: There are these lists, these tuples, and these dicts. They are immediately there, at my fingertips. And this is a feeling that I never had, before. Especially these dicts are incredible. This was a feeling like 'getting rich overnight'. """ I loved this statement very much, and I have to say, this is essentially my feeling for myself, since many years now. I could imagine that this might be a candidate for next year's Python congress' slogan. "Python makes you rich, overnight". Not by money, in the first place, but by multiplying your own capabilities, immediately. It needed the fresh experience of a newcomer to become aware of this, again. The ambiguity is obvious. On first reading, it will attract many. On second reading, those who are thinking "ahh, ohh, yes, not I understand" will remain. But that's ok for a good slogan! got rich overnight by Python! being rich since 1800 nights now - sincerely -- chris -- Christian Tismer :^) <mailto:tismer@tismer.com> Mission Impossible 5oftware : Have a break! Take a ride on Python's Johannes-Niemeyer-Weg 9a : *Starship* http://starship.python.net/ 14109 Berlin : PGP key -> http://wwwkeys.pgp.net/ work +49 30 89 09 53 34 home +49 30 802 86 56 pager +49 173 24 18 776 PGP 0x57F3BF04 9064 F4E1 D754 C2FF 1619 305B C09C 5A3B 57F3 BF04 whom do you want to sponsor today? http://www.stackless.com/

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FWD: Re: Problem w/ IDLE on Win2000
by Aahz 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

Is there an SF bug for this? Should I add it to bugs.html? ----- Forwarded message from deelan <ggg(a)zzz.it> ----- > From: deelan <ggg(a)zzz.it> > Newsgroups: comp.lang.python > Subject: Re: Problem w/ IDLE on Win2000 > Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 09:53:15 +0200 > Organization: IUnet > > David Lees wrote: > (...) > >I believe the problem is the same one previously discussed with respect > >to Windows XP. IDLE can not be in a path where any of the directory > >names have a space. Unfortunately, 'program files' has a space in it. > some problem on my win2k server sp4. installed py2.3 into "program > files", IDLE failed to start. reinstalled 2.3 into "c:\python", problem > fixed. > > bye > -- > goldicus1970 AT yahoo.it > http://www.deelan.com > > > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Aahz (aahz(a)pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ This is Python. We don't care much about theory, except where it intersects with useful practice. --Aahz

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Re: [Python-checkins] python/dist/src/Objects typeobject.c,2.242,2.243
by Michael Hudson 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

mwh(a)users.sourceforge.net writes: > Update of /cvsroot/python/python/dist/src/Objects > In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv29176 > > Modified Files: > typeobject.c > Log Message: > /* XXX From here until type is allocated, "return NULL" leaks bases! */ > > Sure looks like it to me! <wink> > > When I run the leak2.py script I posted to python-dev, I only see > three reference leaks in all of test_descr. When I run > test_descr.test_main, I still see 46 leaks. This clearly demands > posting a yelp to python-dev :-) This is deeply weird. Watch: [mwh@pc150 build-debug]$ ./python.exe Python 2.4a0 (#25, Aug 8 2003, 14:17:07) [GCC 3.1 20020420 (prerelease)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> from test import test_support [40915 refs] >>> test_support.verbose = 0 [41028 refs] >>> from test import test_descr [56312 refs] >>> import gc [56439 refs] >>> for i in range(5): # just to get things to stabilize ... test_descr.test_main(); gc.collect() ... 273 297 297 297 297 [66427 refs] ----------------------------------. >>> test_descr.test_main(); gc.collect() | leaks 46 refs 297 | [66473 refs] <---------------------------------: >>> test_descr.test_main(); gc.collect() | 297 | and again [66519 refs] <---------------------------------' >>> test_descr.test_main(); gc.collect() 32 [66523 refs] ----------------------------------. >>> test_descr.test_main(); gc.collect() | now we leak 32 | just three! [66526 refs] <---------------------------------' >>> gc.set_threshold(193, 10, 10) [66526 refs] >>> test_descr.test_main(); gc.collect() 32 [66571 refs] ----------------------------------. >>> test_descr.test_main(); gc.collect() | back to 46! 32 | [66617 refs] <---------------------------------' >>> Help!? Anyone!? (Neil!?) bewildered-ly y'rs, mwh -- Ya, ya, ya, except ... if I were built out of KSR chips, I'd be running at 25 or 50 MHz, and would be wrong about ALMOST EVERYTHING almost ALL THE TIME just due to being a computer! -- Tim Peters, 30 Apr 97

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sizeof(long) != sizeof(void*)
by martin＠v.loewis.de 11 Aug '03

11 Aug '03

On Win64, a number of tests fail as they expect that a Python integer can represent a platform pointer. For example, test_array expects that buffer_info returns an integer. Likewise, test_descr expects that id() and hash() return the same value by default. Is that a bug in the Win64 port, or in the tests? Regards, Martin

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RE: [Python-Dev] Make it an error to use __slots__ with classicclasses
by Delaney, Timothy C (Timothy) 10 Aug '03

10 Aug '03

> From: Terence Way [mailto:terry@wayforward.net] > > A brief test shows that PyChecker checks for this, however: > Warnings... > > testslot.py:2: Using __slots__ in classic class foo has no effect, > consider deriving from object That seems sufficient to me. I think the right approach is educating people to use PyChecker. Tim Delaney

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Weekly Python Bug/Patch Summary
by Skip Montanaro 10 Aug '03

10 Aug '03

Bug/Patch Summary ----------------- 431 open / 3995 total bugs (+5) 168 open / 2309 total patches (-4) New Bugs -------- IDE defaults to Mac linefeeds (2003-08-04) http://python.org/sf/782686 PyObject_Free unallocated memory read warning (2003-08-04) http://python.org/sf/782689 ImportError: cannot import name __all__ (2003-08-04) http://python.org/sf/782752 MacOS9: installer should test CarbonLib version (2003-08-04) http://python.org/sf/783095 test_ossaudiodev timing failure (2003-08-04) http://python.org/sf/783242 Inconsistent results with super and __getattribute__ (2003-08-05) http://python.org/sf/783528 SIGSEGV in _sre.c (IRIX 6.5.20) (2003-08-05) http://python.org/sf/783789 Tab / Space Configuration Does Not Work in IDLE (2003-08-05) http://python.org/sf/783887 test_strptime fails with duplicate DST timezone name (2003-08-05) http://python.org/sf/783952 test_re failure on 64bit targets (alpha, ia64) (2003-08-06) http://python.org/sf/783990 Byte-order bug in socket-module getaddrinfo.c (2003-08-06) http://python.org/sf/784031 Fatal Python error: unknown scope (2003-08-06) http://python.org/sf/784075 IDLE does not start for 2.3 on windows. (2003-08-06) http://python.org/sf/784183 test_repr failure on m68k-linux (2003-08-06) http://python.org/sf/784443 MacPython installer fails on UFS filesystem (2003-08-07) http://python.org/sf/785031 zlib monotonic test -- false assumptions or bug in zlib.lib (2003-08-08) http://python.org/sf/785222 urllib output: Worker thread.. (2003-08-08) http://python.org/sf/785584 posixmodule uses utimes, which is broken in glibc-2.3.2 (2003-08-10) http://python.org/sf/786194 New Patches ----------- Port tests to unittest (Part 2) (2003-05-13) http://python.org/sf/736962 pty.fork() compatibility code wrong? (2003-08-04) http://python.org/sf/783050 support for server side transactions in _ssl (2003-08-04) http://python.org/sf/783188 A program to scan python files and list those require coding (2003-08-06) http://python.org/sf/784089 getopt_long_only() (2003-08-06) http://python.org/sf/784231 fix obscure crash in descriptor handling (2003-08-07) http://python.org/sf/784825 pydoc's usage should use basename (2003-08-08) http://python.org/sf/785689 Documentation for platform module (2003-08-08) http://python.org/sf/785752 Closed Bugs ----------- python-mode and nested indents (2002-07-26) http://python.org/sf/587239 menues in emacs21 in transient mode (2002-10-10) http://python.org/sf/621554 python-mode loops on if/else (2003-02-12) http://python.org/sf/685465 python-mode.el: sexp commands don't understand Python (2003-03-17) http://python.org/sf/705005 cStringIO does not set closed attr (2003-07-13) http://python.org/sf/770485 Non-ASCII characters bugs (2003-07-20) http://python.org/sf/774680 change 0,1 to False,True in dict.has_key doc (2003-07-22) http://python.org/sf/775836 Solaris error doing a print (2003-07-22) http://python.org/sf/775985 HIDDEN in Tkconstants.py (2003-07-25) http://python.org/sf/777664 struct does not pad to alignment (2003-07-27) http://python.org/sf/778681 parameter confusion in 2.3c2 (2003-07-28) http://python.org/sf/778964 time.strptime() 1,200 times slower in python2.3 (2003-07-31) http://python.org/sf/780807 test_normalization fails (2003-07-31) http://python.org/sf/781065 py-2.3 socket.inet_pton() segfault. (2003-08-01) http://python.org/sf/781722 file.write() incorrectly tests remaining space (2003-08-02) http://python.org/sf/781891 Closed Patches -------------- test for patch #543865 & others (2002-04-14) http://python.org/sf/543867 A different patch for python-mode vs gdb (2002-06-11) http://python.org/sf/567468 Make python-mode.el use "jython" interp (2002-06-27) http://python.org/sf/574750 python-mode patch for ipython support (2002-06-30) http://python.org/sf/575774 More flexible py-shell interpreter selection (2003-01-26) http://python.org/sf/675034 python-mode.el: make C-c - work correctly after C-c | (2003-01-30) http://python.org/sf/677838 BaseHTTPServer doesn't need StringIO intermediary (2003-06-02) http://python.org/sf/747364 IRIX libmpc patch (2003-07-09) http://python.org/sf/768840 Fix for LD_LIBRARY_PATH inheritance on SunOS when -shared (2003-07-15) http://python.org/sf/771998 Updated 2.2.3 .spec file. (2003-07-16) http://python.org/sf/772696 python-mode py-execute-buffer bug (2003-07-29) http://python.org/sf/779839 fix gettext NullTranslation.add_fallback typo (2003-07-31) http://python.org/sf/781126

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