Mailman 3 December 2005 - Python-Dev

Website cruft
by Michael McLay Dec. 14, 2005

Dec. 14, 2005

The download page http://www.python.org/download/ has a reference to "CVS Access" http://www.python.org/download/cvs.html that references a page with pointers to the old SourceForge CVS. Would someone please update these pages to reflect the move to Subversion.

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should I really have to install Python before I can build it ?
by Fredrik Lundh Dec. 13, 2005

Dec. 13, 2005

looks like you need to have a recent Python version installed to be able to build the current trunk: ./Parser/asdl_c.py -h ./Include -c ./Python ./Parser/Python.asdl ./Parser/asdl_c.py:150: SyntaxWarning: local name 'self' in 'sum_with_constructors' shadows use of 'self' as global in nested scope 'emit' def sum_with_constructors(self, sum, name, depth): ./Parser/asdl_c.py:263: SyntaxWarning: local name 'self' in 'emit_function' shadows use of 'self' as global in nested scope 'emit' def … [View More]

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Weekly Python Patch/Bug Summary
by Kurt B. Kaiser Dec. 13, 2005

Dec. 13, 2005

Patch / Bug Summary ___________________ Patches : 383 open (+11) / 2990 closed (+10) / 3373 total (+21) Bugs : 927 open (+19) / 5415 closed (+20) / 6342 total (+39) RFE : 204 open ( +4) / 192 closed ( +1) / 396 total ( +5) New / Reopened Patches ______________________ use PyOS_ReadlineFunctionPointer in non-interractive input (2004-05-18) CLOSED http://python.org/sf/955928 reopened by loewis use PyOS_ReadlineFunctionPointer in non-interractive input (2005-11-27) … [View More]

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Re: [Python-Dev] ElementTree in stdlib
by Michael Chermside Dec. 13, 2005

Dec. 13, 2005

I wrote: > Frankly, if at any time in the past several years the XML-SIG had > published their consensus report on the "preferred API for XML" > (or perhaps "preferred small set of APIs, each tuned for a specific > purpose"), I expect it would have been incorporated in the core. Martin v. Löwis objected: > That's not true. The current xml package *is* the consensus of > xml-sig. Fred Drake clarifies > It pretty much was at the time, at any rate. It's not clear to me … [View More]

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Re: [Python-Dev] ElementTree in stdlib
by Mike Brown Dec. 13, 2005

Dec. 13, 2005

"Martin v. L> So as that has more-or-less failed, the next natural approach is > "let's believe in the community". For that, two things need to > happen: the author of the package must indicate that he would like > to see it incorporated, and the users must indicate that they like > the package. Both has happened for ElementTree, but I think it > could happen for other packages, as well. > > If it is merely the lack of due process you are complaining about, > and you … [View More]

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__builtin__ vs __builtins__
by Neal Norwitz Dec. 12, 2005

Dec. 12, 2005

Below is Guido's response to my question: Can we start getting rid of __builtins__ (or __builtin__) at least for py3k? Having both builtin versions is confusing, how can we improve the situation? n ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Guido van Rossum <guido(a)python.org> Couple of loose thoughts: - Having __builtins__ and __builtin__ both is clearly a bad idea. - Long ago, __builtin__ was just called builtin; I'm not sure I still agree with the reasoning that made me … [View More]

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A missing piece of information in weakref documentation
by Noam Raphael Dec. 12, 2005

Dec. 12, 2005

Hello, I now discovered that a callback registered when creating a weak reference will be called only if the weak reference object is still alive. This is not documented in the weakref module documentation. (It's a good behaviour - it just ought to be documented.) Have a good day, Noam

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stupid package tricks
by Fredrik Lundh Dec. 12, 2005

Dec. 12, 2005

the xml/__init__.py file contains a cute little hack that overrides the *entire* xml subtree with stuff from PyXML, if available. the code basically does import _xmlplus sys.modules[__name__] = _xmlplus (exception handling and version checks not shown). however, this means that as things are right now, xml.etree will simply disappear if the user has PyXML on the machine. what's the best way to fix this? the obvious fix is of course to do something like import _xmlplus … [View More]

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Exception type on handling closed files
by João Paulo Silva Dec. 12, 2005

Dec. 12, 2005

Look: >>> a = file("dir/foo") >>> a.close() >>> a.read() Traceback (most recent call last): File "<pyshell#28>", line 1, in -toplevel- a.read() ValueError: I/O operation on closed file Shoudn't this raise IOError? Seems more semantically correct to me. -- João Paulo da Silva LinuxUser #355914 ICQ: 265770691 | Jabber: joaopinga(a)jabber.org

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Re: [Python-Dev] Deprecate __ private (was Re: PEP 8 updates/clarifications)
by João Paulo Silva Dec. 11, 2005

Dec. 11, 2005

Hi All, I think that a big problem is that there isn't an obvious way to say: self.a is part of the class interface, self.b isn't. Or: you can override self._c to do that. I believe we really need a way to do these things more clear. Currently we can use methods and properties, but even this is not clear enough in a inheritance tree. -- Até mais.. João Paulo da Silva LinuxUser #355914 ICQ: 265770691 | Jabber: joaopinga(a)jabber.org

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