Mailman 3 June 2008 - Python-Dev

Troubles with Roundup
by Giovanni Bajo June 17, 2008

June 17, 2008

Hello, I'm trying to login into the tracker but it gives me "invalid login" even after multiple password resets. I can't submit a proper bugreport because... I can't login :) Who can I privately contact to avoid spamming this list? Thanks! -- Giovanni Bajo Develer S.r.l. http://www.develer.com

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Let me introduce myself! :)
by Simgi Dacav June 16, 2008

June 16, 2008

Hi there! I'm Giovanni Simoni, known as Dacav. I'm a student of Computer Science at the University of Trento (Italy), a GNU/Linux user and, since I've tryied it for the first time, I've appreciated the expressive power of Python, so I'd like to delve into it. I subscribed this mailing list after reading the introduction to development (http://www.python.org/dev/intro/). I feel that it wolud be a good mean to improve my skillness with Python, even if I'm probably not enough experienced to … [View More]

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PEP 8 and optional underscores
by Raymond Hettinger June 15, 2008

June 15, 2008

"Function names should be lowercase, with words separated by underscores as necessary to improve readability." -- PEP 8 If I'm reading this correctly, then underscores are not required everywhere. Can some of these be shortened? function:: active_count() method:: Thread.get_name() method:: Thread.is_alive() method:: Thread.is_daemon() method:: Thread.set_daemon(daemonic) In some cases, the mental pronounciation changes and affects my perception of meaning. For example, … [View More]

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Proposal: add odict to collections
by Jim Jewett June 15, 2008

June 15, 2008

The odict (as proposed here, ordered on time of key insertion) looks like a close match to the dlict needed by some of the optimization proposals. http://python.org/dev/peps/pep-0267/ -jJ

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Advice on numbers.py implementation of binary mixins.
by Jim Jewett June 15, 2008

June 15, 2008

Raymond Hettinger wrote: > PEP-3141 outlines an approach to writing binary > operators to allow the right operand to override > the operation if the left operand inherits the > operation from the ABC. > Here is my first approximation at how to write > them for the Integral mixins: > class Integral(Rational): > def __and__(self, other): > if isinstance(other, (type(self), int, long)): # XXX > return int(self) & int(other) I think for … [View More]

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First betas (perhaps) on June 18
by Barry Warsaw June 15, 2008

June 15, 2008

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It's unfortunate that I was not able to release the first betas on Wednesday. The primary reason was that none of the 3.0 buildbots were green. My proposal is this: I will spin another release this coming Wednesday, June 18. If we can get both the 2.6 and 3.0 buildbots green by then, and close out all remaining release critical bugs, then Wednesday's release will be beta 1. In that case, I will update PEP 361 and push the entire … [View More]

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multiprocessing source not "Unix clean"
by skip＠pobox.com June 15, 2008

June 15, 2008

In trying to solve a build problem with the multiprocessing code on Solaris10 I visited multiprocessing.c in XEmacs and noticed the files all appear to have Windows line endings. Should those maybe be stripped to conform to the other Python source? FWIW, it appears that Solaris doesn't define SEM_VALUE_MAX but does define _SEM_VALUE_MAX in sys/params.h. .../Modules/_multiprocessing/multiprocessing.c: In function 'init_multiprocessing': .../Modules/_multiprocessing/multiprocessing.c:… [View More]

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Advice on numbers.py implementation of binary mixins.
by Raymond Hettinger June 14, 2008

June 14, 2008

PEP-3141 outlines an approach to writing binary operators to allow the right operand to override the operation if the left operand inherits the operation from the ABC. Here is my first approximation at how to write them for the Integral mixins: class Integral(Rational): def __and__(self, other): if isinstance(other, (type(self), int, long)): # XXX return int(self) & int(other) return NotImplemented def __rand__(self, other): if … [View More]

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Interesting blog post by Ben Sussman-Collins
by Guido van Rossum June 14, 2008

June 14, 2008

My colleague and SVN developer Ben Sussman-Collins occasionally blogs about the social side of (mostly open source) software development. He just posted a new one that struck a chord: http://blog.red-bean.com/sussman/?p=96 The story's main moral: submit your code for review early and often; work in a branch if you need to, but don't hide your code from review in a local repository until it's "perfect". Let's all remember this and make sure not to drop "code bombs" on each other. :-) -- --… [View More]

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Re: [Python-Dev] [Python-3000] [Python-3000-checkins] r64217 - in python/branches/py3k/Lib: bsddb/test/test_associate.py bsddb/test/test_join.py bsddb/test/test_lock.py bsddb/test/test_thread.py idlelib/rpc.py idlelib/run.py socketserver.py test/test_threadedtemp
by Guido van Rossum June 14, 2008

June 14, 2008

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Georg Brandl <g.brandl(a)gmx.net> wrote: > Guido van Rossum schrieb: >> >> It's water under the bridge now, but IMO it was too rash to *remove* >> the old threading API from Py3k, and doubly rash to do so one day >> before the beta release. Running up to a release (whether alpha, beta >> or final) we should practice extra restraint, not rush to get things >> in right before the deadline. Let's all be more careful the … [View More]

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