On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 5:15 PM Steve Dower <steve.dower@python.org> wrote:
On 23May2019 0542, Inada Naoki wrote:
> 1. perf shows 95% of CPU time is eaten by _PyObject_Free, not kernel space.
> 2. This loop is cleary hot:
> https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/51aa35e9e17eef60d04add9619fe2a7eb938358c/Objects/obmalloc.c#L1816-L1819
>
> I can attach the process by gdb and I confirmed many arenas have
> same nfreepools.

It's relatively easy to test replacing our custom allocators with the
system ones, yes? Can we try those to see whether they have the same
characteristic?

Given the relative amount of investment over the last 19 years [1], I
wouldn't be surprised if most system ones are at least as good for our
needs now. Certainly Windows HeapAlloc has had serious improvements in
that time to help with fragmentation and small allocations.

FYI, and I've mentioned this at PyCon to a few people (might've been you, Steve, I don't remember) -- but at Google we've experimented with disabling obmalloc when using TCMalloc (a faster and thread-aware malloc, which makes a huge difference within Google when dealing with multi-threaded C++ libraries), both using the usual Python benchmarks and real-world code with real-world workloads (a core part of YouTube, for example), all on Linux. There's still a significant benefit to using obmalloc when using glibc's malloc, and also a noticeable benefit when using TCMalloc. There are certainly cases where it doesn't matter much, and there may even be cases where the overhead of obmalloc isn't worth it, but I do believe it's still a firm net benefit.
 

Cheers,
Steve

[1]:
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/51aa35e9e17eef60d04add9619fe2a7eb938358c/Objects/obmalloc.c#L769
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