[Python-Dev] Re: Slowly bend the C API towards the limited API to get a stable ABI for everyone

IMO it would be better to keep the HPy design as the long term goal: * Refer to Python objects with opaque handles * All structures are opaque (with a few exceptions, like PyType_Spec) It will likely take multiple iterations (Python releases) to reach this goal, and incompatible C API changes may need a PEP (like PEP 674), but IMO it's good to keep this goal in mind. Otherwise, it's not easy to understand the rationale for changes like https://peps.python.org/pep-0674/ "PEP 674 – Disallow using macros as l-values". Victor -- Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death.