
Hi,
Oren Tirosh <oren-py-l@hishome.net> writes: [...]
types.IntegerType -> types.int types.FunctionType -> types.function types.TracebackType -> types.traceback ...
The long capitalized names currently in the types module will be deprecated.
Michael Hudson: [...]
I mean, I don't have any real opinion *against* this pep, I just don't really see why anyone would care...
I care and I've a strong opinion against this PEP and any other so called "enhancement", which makes it harder or impossible to write Python code *NOW*, which covers a certain range of Python language implementations. The Python documentation advertises the 'types' module with the following wording: """This module defines names for all object types that are used by the standard Python interpreter, [...] It is safe to use "from types import *" -- the module does not export any names besides the ones listed here. New names exported by future versions of this module will all end in "Type". """ This makes promises about future versions of this module and the the Python language. Breaking promises is in general a very bad idea and will do serious harm to trustworthiness. At the time of this writing the oldest Python version I have to support is Python 1.5.2 and this will stay so until at least the end of year 2004. So any attempts to deprecate often used language features does no good other than demotivating people to start using Python. It would be possible to change the documentation of types module now and start telling users that the Python development team made up their mind. That would open up the possibility to really deprecate the module or change the type names later (but only much much later!), without causing the effect I called "version fatigue" lately here. A look at http://www.python.org/dev/doc/devel/lib/module-types.html showed that this didn't happened yet. Sigh! Regards, Peter -- Peter Funk, Oldenburger Str.86, D-27777 Ganderkesee, Germany, Fax:+49 4222950260 office: +49 421 20419-0 (ArtCom GmbH, Grazer Str.8, D-28359 Bremen, Germany)