On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:29 PM Dennis Sweeney <sweeney.dennis650@gmail.com> wrote:
> > One may also continue using ``startswith()``
> > and ``endswith()``
> > methods for control flow instead of testing the lengths as above.
> >
> > That's worse, in a sense, since "foofoobar".removeprefix("foo") returns
> "foobar" which still starts with "foo".

I meant that startswith might be called before removeprefix, as it was
in the ``deccheck.py`` example.

Not having read the full PEP, that wasn't clear to me. Sorry!
 
> If I saw that in a code review I'd flag it for non-obviousness. One should
> use 'string != new_string' unless there is severe pressure to squeeze
> every nanosecond out of this particular code (and it better be inside an
> inner loop).

I thought that someone had suggested that such things go in the PEP,

I'm sure someone did. But not every bit of feedback is worth acting upon, and sometimes a weird compromise is cooked up that addresses somebody's nit while making things less understandable for everyone else. I think this is one of those cases.
 
but
since these are more stylistic considerations, I would be more than happy to
trim it down to just

    The builtin ``str`` class will gain two new methods which will behave
    as follows when ``type(self) is type(prefix) is str``::

        def removeprefix(self: str, prefix: str, /) -> str:
            if self.startswith(prefix):
                return self[len(prefix):]
            else:
                return self[:]

        def removesuffix(self: str, suffix: str, /) -> str:
            # suffix='' should not call self[:-0].
            if suffix and self.endswith(suffix):
                return self[:-len(suffix)]
            else:
                return self[:]

    These methods, even when called on ``str`` subclasses, should always
    return base ``str`` objects.

    Methods with the corresponding semantics will be added to the builtin
    ``bytes`` and ``bytearray`` objects.  If ``b`` is either a ``bytes``
    or ``bytearray`` object, then ``b.removeprefix()`` and ``b.removesuffix()``
    will accept any bytes-like object as an argument. The two methods will
    also be added to ``collections.UserString``, with similar behavior.

Excellent!

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--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)