2017-07-19 16:26 GMT+02:00 Victor Stinner <victor.stinner@gmail.com>:
2017-07-19 15:22 GMT+02:00 Oleg Broytman <phd@phdru.name>:
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 02:59:52PM +0200, Victor Stinner <victor.stinner@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Python is very slow to start on Windows 7"
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29997274/python-is-very-slow-to-start-on-windows-7
>
>    However hard you are going to optimize Python you cannot fix those
> "defenders", "guards" and "protectors". :-) This particular link can be
> excluded from consideration.

Sorry, I didn't read carefully each link I posted. Even for me knowing
what Python does at startup, it's hard to explain why 3 people have
different timing: 15 ms, 75 ms and 300 ms for example. In my
experience, the following things impact Python startup:

* -S option: loading or not the site module
* Paths in sys.path: PYTHONPATH environment variable for example
* .pth files files in sys.path
* Python running in a virtual environment or not
* Operating system: Python loads different modules at startup
depending on the OS. Naoki INADA just removed _osx_support from being
imported in the site module on macOS for example.

My list is likely incomplete.

In the performance benchmark suite, a controlled virtual environment
is created to have a known set of modules. FYI running Python is a
virtual environment is slower than "system" python which runs outside
a virtual environment...

Victor

Hi Victor,

I assume that Python loads compiled (.pyc and/or .pyo) from the stdlib. That's something that also influences the startup time (compiling source vs loading pre-compiled modules).

Bests,
Cesare 

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