In November there was an interesting discussion on comp.lang.python about the meaning of __str__ and __repr__. One tidbit that came out of this discussion was that __str__ for longs should drop the trailing 'L'. Was there a decision on this? I'd really like this to happen. We do alot of work with RDBMS systems and long integers seem to come up alot with these systems (as do other fix-decimal number, but that's another topic ;). For example, our latest Sybase and Oracle support in Zope returns long integers for RDBMS types like NUMBER(10,0). The trailing 'L' in the string representation is causeing us some headaches. This seems also to be an issue when using the current standard ODBC interface with Oracle, as indicated in a DB-SIG post today. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:jim@digicool.com Python Powered! Technical Director (888) 344-4332 http://www.python.org Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com http://www.zope.org Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my permission. Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for repeats.