I'm using my mailer's "ignore thread" feature and counting on the fact that the flamers will eventually exhaust themselves (most already have). On 06.07.2020 8:41, Christian Heimes wrote:
Y'all,
trigger warning: strong opinion
The Urban Dictionary defines the term "tire fire":
A horrifying mess, either literally or figuratively foul-smelling, that seems to last forever.
The term describes my current view of python-dev perfectly. It has always been a problematic and mentally draining place for, sometimes even toxic. But the recent PEP-8 discussion trumps every past incident (reference to US politics intended).
To every person still replying on the PEP-8 thread:
You are making us sick and should be ashamed of yourself!
And I don't mean 'sick' in the figurative sense. You are literally hurting people who are spending their free and personal time to develop open source software for you. I know of at least three cases among Python core developers with symptoms like sleep disorder, tremor, anxiety, and panic attacks. One core dev wrote publicly that they were forced to take psychotropic medicine to counter a panic attack after they have read just a few messages.
At one point I have even considered to retire from Python core development completely. I'm profoundly disgusted and appalled by the racist attitudes and self-importance of some people as well as an unrelated incident on BPO last week. The two reasons I'm not leaving are several core developers that I'm happy to call friends and Python communities beyond predominantly male and Western participants on the PEP-8 thread. Communities like PyLadies, PyCon Africa, PyLATAM, and PyCon APAC make me proud and happy to be a member of the Python community. I have met fantastic people at Python and OSS events in the Caribbean, India, and East Europe. I don't want to abandon people I cherish and grew fond of.
At least one other core developer has abandoned python-dev last week. Others have stopped participating and posting on python-dev years ago. I will follow their example now.
Goodbye Christian _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list -- python-dev@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-dev-leave@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/LR3RWME7... Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ -- Regards, Ivan