On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 9:13 PM, Brett Cannon <brett@python.org> wrote:

On Thu, 3 May 2018 at 12:29 Guido van Rossum <gvanrossum@gmail.com> wrote:
EVENTUALLY WE'LL ALL BE SHOUTING ALL THE TIME. Sad.

Yep. And that leads to burn-out. So while Ivan may have lucked out in getting the attention of people who are helped him (and given the wrong kind of positive reinforcement that this approach is reasonable), this can lead to people quitting open source and not being available to help you next time (e.g. notice how it drove Paul Moore over the edge to pull back for a week or so and he may have been the expert you needed for packaging or me for imports; IOW I would say Ivan was lucky this time and may not be so lucky next time).

-Brett

Yup. Tolerance has to have its limits, and this came close to abusive behaviour.

I suspect others among us might have been guilty of similar behaviours in the past I certainly couldn't cast the first stone), but times change as do standards, and it's certainly not the tone the majority of the readers of this list would want, I believe.

Let's hope this message continues to come across loud and clear.

regards

Steve