
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Guido van Rossum <guido@python.org> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Michael Foord <fuzzyman@voidspace.org.uk> wrote:
I think someone else pointed this out, but replacing builtins externally to a module is actually common for testing. In particular replacing the open function, but also other builtins, is often done temporarily to replace it with a mock. It seems like this optimisation would break those tests.
Hm, I already suggested to make an exception for open, (and one should be added for __import__) but if this is done for other builtins that is indeed a problem. Can you point to example code doing this?
I've seen it done to write tests for simple CLI behaviour by mocking input() and print() (replacing sys.stdin and sys.stdout instead is far more common, but replacing the functions works too). If compile() accepted a blacklist of builtins that it wasn't allowed to optimise, then that should deal with the core of the problem as far as testing goes.
Cheers, Nick.
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