My 2c as a Python user (mostly) and someone who dabbled in ES2020:

The shouting syntax! does not sit well with me.
The $hygenic is also cumbersome.

To contrast, babel macros:
* looks like regular code, without special syntax: existing tooling
works, less mental strain
* have access to call site environment, so not strictly hygienic(?):
allow for greater expressive power

I these the two points above really helped adopt babel macros in the
js community and should, at the very least be seriously considered by
the py community.

Cheers,
d.

On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 21:16, Mark Shannon <mark@hotpy.org> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I've submitted my PEP on syntactic macros as PEP 638.
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0638/
>
> All comments and suggestions are welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
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