Question:
When you said earlier that you found the problem by using grep...were you looking for places where strdup called locale?

On January 30, 2015 7:52:47 PM CST, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Regardless, if you're looking to toy more with stuff like this, I'd highly recommend dual-booting with Ubuntu, which is what I'm doing now. (Now I rarely ever boot into Windows!)

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you have just the SDK (which doesn't require Cygwin) or a rooted phone? If so, I can upload instructions that don't use the NDK. 

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Cyd Haselton <chaselton@gmail.com> wrote:
This is going to take some time...here's why:

Downloading and installing the NDK/SDK won't be too hard...I have to
clear some space...but my primary machine is running Windows 7 and I'd
rather swallow hot coals than install Cygwin.  I've got next to no
experience with it, other than knowing that the NDK recommends against
it.

I've got a CentOS VM...but it's currently in tarball form on an
external drive for space reasons...and it only has the NDK installed.
If I am able to get it back up and running, there's still the task of
getting  adb connected to my device. from the VM.

Not saying it's impossible...just that it'll take time...and I'll
probably have to tackle it tomorrow (earliest) or Sunday (latest).  In
the meantime I'll also check to see if there's anything that can a)
run in an Android terminal and b) can take a stack trace; it would be
far, far, far easier than either option above.



On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you have the Android SDK and NDK installed? If so...
>
> Using Google, I've created this series of steps, which may (or may not)
> work:
>
> 1. Make sure you have a copy of Python on your computer and make sure that
> it's built with debug symbols.
>
> 2. Run the following commands from a shell with your phone plugged in:
>
>   adb forward tcp:5039 tcp:5039
>   adb shell /system/bin/gdbserver tcp:5039 <path to python executable>
>   <path to ndk binary folder>/arm-linux-androideabi-gdb
>
> Now, GDB should have opened, so type the following commands:
>
>   set solib-search-path <directory holder libpython.so>
>   file <path to local python executable>
>   target remote :5055
>   run
>
> Now, wait for the program to crash and type:
>
>   backtrace
>
> You should now see a complete backtrace in your terminal. To GDB, type:
>
>   quit
>
> *crosses fingers*
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Cyd Haselton <chaselton@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately it is still reporting the same function :-/.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Yes...
>> >
>> > Can you check if it's crashing in a different function now?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Cyd Haselton <chaselton@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes I did.  I did have to enter all the information in manually...I'm
>> >> not familiar with automated patch application tools and even if I
>> >> were, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have them on my device.
>> >>
>> >> Just so that I'm absolutely sure I got everything correct...you wanted
>> >> all of the lines in the patch commented out, correct?  Basically
>> >> everything referencing oldloc?
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Are you sure the patch was applied correctly? I was SO sure it would
>> >> > work!
>> >> >
>> >> > FYI, you tried the patch I attached to the email message, right?
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Cyd Haselton <chaselton@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Update:  I did try the patch after getting it installed correctly,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> I'm still getting a segfault on the newly built binary.
>> >> >> Will post info this afternoon.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Ryan Gonzalez <rymg19@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > No, it returns NULL if malloc gives it a raw pointer. It
>> >> >> > unconditionally
>> >> >> > checks the length of the (possibly null) string argument first.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Please try the patch I attached in the last email. It *might* fix
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > issue.
>> >> >> > Android has crappy locale handling.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Cyd Haselton
>> >> >> > <chaselton@gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>   Unless i'm reading something incorrectly,  _PyMem_RawStrdup is
>> >> >> >> currently returning NULL when given a null pointer.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> From obmalloc.c
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> _PyMem_RawStrdup(const char *str)
>> >> >> >> {
>> >> >> >>     size_t size;
>> >> >> >> char *copy;
>> >> >> >>     size = strlen(str) + 1;
>> >> >> >>     copy = PyMem_RawMalloc(size);
>> >> >> >>     if (copy == NULL)
>> >> >> >>         return NULL;
>> >> >> >> memcpy(copy, str, size);
>> >> >> >> return copy;
>> >> >> >>           }
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Ryan Gonzalez
>> >> >> >> <rymg19@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > I seriously doubt the issue is in that file; _PyMem_RawStrdup
>> >> >> >> > crashes
>> >> >> >> > when
>> >> >> >> > calling strlen. It's that whatever is calling it is likely
>> >> >> >> > asking
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > duplicate a null pointer. Basically, it's probably the caller's
>> >> >> >> > fault.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > You could always try modifying _PyMem_RawStrdup to return NULL
>> >> >> >> > when
>> >> >> >> > given a
>> >> >> >> > null pointer and see where it then segfaults.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Cyd Haselton
>> >> >> >> > <chaselton@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Alternatively, is there a hassle-free way to find out what
>> >> >> >> >> changed
>> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> obmalloc.c between 2.7.x and 3.4.x?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Cyd Haselton
>> >> >> >> >> <chaselton@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > There's a related strdup patch for readline.c, mentioned
>> >> >> >> >> > here:http://bugs.python.org/issue21390 and here
>> >> >> >> >> > https://github.com/rave-engine/python3-android/issues/2.
>> >> >> >> >> > There's a patch, but I'm not sure how to modify it for
>> >> >> >> >> > obmalloc.c,
>> >> >> >> >> > as
>> >> >> >> >> > (I think) the functions all belong to Python...they're all
>> >> >> >> >> > prefixed
>> >> >> >> >> > with _PyXx
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Cyd Haselton
>> >> >> >> >> > <chaselton@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> Absolutely.  Good thing I have addr2line on device
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> /bld/python/Python-3.4.2 $ addr2line -C -f -e
>> >> >> >> >> >> /lib/libpython3.4m.so.1.0
>> >> >> >> >> >> 0008bbc8
>> >> >> >> >> >> _PyMem_RawStrdup
>> >> >> >> >> >> /bld/python/Python-3.4.2/Objects/obmalloc.c:323
>> >> >> >> >> >> /bld/python/Python-3.4.2 $
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Ryan <rymg19@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Could you try the steps at
>> >> >> >> >> >>> http://stackoverflow.com/a/11369475/2097780? They
>> >> >> >> >> >>> allow you to get a better idea of where libc is crashing.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Cyd Haselton <chaselton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Managed to get this out of logcat:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> F(11914) Fatal signal 11 (SIGSEGV) at 0x00000000
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> (code=1),
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> thread
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> 11914 (python)  (libc)
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> [ 01-29 19:30:55.855 23373:23373 F/libc     ]
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Fatal signal 11 (SIGSEGV) at 0x00000000 (code=1), thread
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> 23373
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> (python)
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> Less detail than strace but it seems to be that python is
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> segfaulting
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> libc...
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Ryan Gonzalez
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> <rymg19@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Guido van Rossum
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> <guido@python.org>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  What I see in the strace:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  ... load libpython3.4m.so.1.0
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  ... load libm
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  ... open /dev/__properties__ and do something to it
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> (what?)
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  ... get current time
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  ... allocate memory
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  ... getuid
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  ... segfault
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  That's not a lot to go on, but it doesn't look as if
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> it
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> has
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> started to
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  load modules yet.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  Does /dev/__properties__ ring a bell? Not to me.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> https://android.googlesource.com/platform/system/core/+/tools_r22/init/property_service.c
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  is the code that works with that file.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  This explains it a bit (slides 24-29). Looks like
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> something
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> to
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> do
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> with
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  interprocess communication. Likely has nothing to do
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> with
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Python
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> itself.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  Maybe this would be useful?
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  That stack trace would be really helpful.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Cyd Haselton
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> <chaselton@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>  Apologies...I'm not sure what a stack track is, but I
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> do
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> have
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>  strace.  Nearest I can tell, it happens due to an
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> open
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> call,
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> though I
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>  am probably wrong.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>  Attaching the strace output to this email.  I'm going
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> to
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> head
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> back to
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>  the documentation and to back out of some
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> Android-related
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> changes
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> in
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>  _localemodule.c
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>  On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Guido van Rossum
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>> <guido@python.org>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>  There could be a million differences relevant
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> (unicode,
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> ints,
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> ...).
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>  Perhaps
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>  the importlib bootstrap is failing. Perhaps the
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> dynamic
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> loading
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> code
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>  changed. Did you get a stack track? (IIRC strace
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> shows
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> a
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> syscall
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> trace
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>  --
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>  also useful, but doesn't tell you precisely how
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> it segfaulted.)
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>  On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Cyd Haselton
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>> <chaselton@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  All,
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  I recently ditched my attempts to port Python 2.7.8
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> to
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Android
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> in
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  favor of Python 3.4.2.  Unfortunately, after using
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> same
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> configure
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  options in the same environment, and modifying the
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> setup.py
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> as
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> needed,
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  the newly built binary throws a segfault when the
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> generate-posix-vars
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  portion of the build is reached...and when it is
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> run
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> as
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> well
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> (i.e.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  ./python --help, ./python -E -S -m sysconfig, or
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> similar)
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  I took a strace of ./python, however I'm a bit lost
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> when
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> reviewing
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> it.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  Any ideas as to what may be going on...i.e. why
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Python
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> 2.7
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> works but
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  3.x throws a segfault?
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  Thanks in advance,
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  Cyd
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  Python-Dev mailing list
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Python-Dev@python.org
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>  Unsubscribe:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/guido%40python.org
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>  --
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>>>  --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  --
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> ________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  Python-Dev mailing list
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  Python-Dev@python.org
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>  Unsubscribe:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/rymg19%40gmail.com
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  --
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  Ryan
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> answer
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> will
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> be
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> simple:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> don't
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> think
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> that was
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  nul-terminated."
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  Personal reality distortion fields are immune to
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> contradictory
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> evidence.
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>> -
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  srean
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>>  Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my
>> >> >> >> >> >>> brevity.
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Ryan
>> >> >> >> > If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will
>> >> >> >> > be
>> >> >> >> > simple:
>> >> >> >> > "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I don't think
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > was
>> >> >> >> > nul-terminated."
>> >> >> >> > Personal reality distortion fields are immune to contradictory
>> >> >> >> > evidence.
>> >> >> >> > -
>> >> >> >> > srean
>> >> >> >> > Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Ryan
>> >> >> > If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be
>> >> >> > simple:
>> >> >> > "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I don't think
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > nul-terminated."
>> >> >> > Personal reality distortion fields are immune to contradictory
>> >> >> > evidence.
>> >> >> > -
>> >> >> > srean
>> >> >> > Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Ryan
>> >> > If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be
>> >> > simple:
>> >> > "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I don't think that
>> >> > was
>> >> > nul-terminated."
>> >> > Personal reality distortion fields are immune to contradictory
>> >> > evidence.
>> >> > -
>> >> > srean
>> >> > Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ryan
>> > If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be simple:
>> > "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I don't think that was
>> > nul-terminated."
>> > Personal reality distortion fields are immune to contradictory evidence.
>> > -
>> > srean
>> > Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/
>
>
>
>
> --
> Ryan
> If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be simple:
> "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I don't think that was
> nul-terminated."
> Personal reality distortion fields are immune to contradictory evidence. -
> srean
> Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/



--
Ryan
If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be simple: "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I don't think that was nul-terminated."
Personal reality distortion fields are immune to contradictory evidence. - srean
Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/



--
Ryan
If anybody ever asks me why I prefer C++ to C, my answer will be simple: "It's becauseslejfp23(@#Q*(E*EIdc-SEGFAULT. Wait, I don't think that was nul-terminated."
Personal reality distortion fields are immune to contradictory evidence. - srean
Check out my website: http://kirbyfan64.github.io/

--
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