On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 6:37 AM Pablo Galindo Salgado email@example.com wrote:
Two volunteer core developers and at least one buildbot would help a lot to ensure that Python is working on Solaris for real, and reduce the number of open Solaris issues. If it happens, I'm perfectly fine with keeping Solaris support. I also hope that more people will contribute to maintain the code, not only Ronald and Jesús. Many people wrote to me that Python is a key component of Illumos (the package manager is written in Python). So maybe Python on Illumos deserves some love?
If we decide to take the proposal seriously, I think it may be beneficial to establish a deadline for having the buildbot green and the issues fixed, so the promise of having "real" support at some point in the future does actually manifest itself or it does not block following Victor's proposal if it actually does not happen.
I agree, and so maybe it's time to more formally establish what platforms we do support, such that any platform not listed is not considered supported. We could reorient PEP 11 towards that and for each platform we list:
1. Which buildbot must be green for that platform to be considered supported 2. Who is in charge of submitting patches to keep that buildbot green (and what that minimum number of people is) 3. We have an agreed upon timeline that if a buildbot stays red for longer than the specified time then the platform is considered abandoned 4. We all agree to prioritize patches from the people listed for a platform to fix their buildbots if they are not core devs 5. We have a clear definition of "platform" (e.g. is "Linux" a platform, or does it break down to individual distros?)
Would there be anything else we would want for a platform for us to be willing to consider it supported?
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 at 12:54, Victor Stinner firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Le ven. 30 oct. 2020 à 12:59, Ronald Oussoren email@example.com a écrit :
I agree. That’s what I tried to write, its not just providing a
buildbot but also making sure that it keeps working and stays green.
This is really great!
Jesús Cea Avión is also a volunteer to maintain the Solaris (see the bpo).
Moreover, it seems like some people would like to provide servers to run a Solaris buildbot. Example: https://bugs.python.org/issue42173#msg379895
Two volunteer core developers and at least one buildbot would help a lot to ensure that Python is working on Solaris for real, and reduce the number of open Solaris issues. If it happens, I'm perfectly fine with keeping Solaris support.
I also hope that more people will contribute to maintain the code, not only Ronald and Jesús. Many people wrote to me that Python is a key component of Illumos (the package manager is written in Python). So maybe Python on Illumos deserves some love?
There are many ways to contribute to the Solaris support of Python:
- Comment Solaris issues (bugs.python.org, search for "Solaris" in the
- Propose PRs to fix issues or implement Solaris specific features
- Review Solaris PRs
- Provide Solaris servers accessible to Python core developers (SSH
Donate to the CPython project:
See also the https://devguide.python.org/ if you would like to contribute to Python.
By the way, thanks Jakub Kulík (CC-ed to this email) who fixed multiple Solaris issues in the last 2 years ;-)
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death.
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