Yes, that is my specific issue. I have a C DLL invoked by a python wrapper module using ctypes that has at least one issue (and likely more than one) so I need to be able to start a python test script and debug the lower-level DLL code. The C test programs for the lower-level C DLL all seen to succeed, so I am suspecting something is wrong in the wrapper code. If anyone has or knows of step-by-step instructions on how to set that debug environment up and start the outer-level script with debug breakpoints in the DLL I would greatly appreciate it. I'm also doing my own searches for tutorials on debugging python with VS20xx, but have not read/viewed one of those yet. I have in fact been able to re-compile cpython and the lower-level DLL using the VS2019 command line tools, but so far my only debugging capability has been to insert fprintf's to a trace file in the lower-level DLL code (or macros that result in such output) into the C code where I *think* the problem is happening, but I have not been able to nail it down yet. Being able to start the process from the IDE and catch any C errors when they happen would be ideal. My environment is Win10-64 and python 3.8.5. Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Paul Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 2:20 PM To: pjfarley3@earthlink.net Cc: Python Dev Subject: Re: [Python-Dev] Advice / RTFM needed for tool setup to participate in python development from a Windows host Personally, I just have Visual Studio and VS Code as my text editor. I rarely use Visual Studio directly, though, I mostly use the `build.bat` and similar scripts in the `PCBuild` directory.
Having said that, I'm not doing anything like debugging problems with DLLs, for which I imagine a decent C development environment is needed. You don't have much choice other than Visual Studio there (no other compiler is supported on Windows), though, so you'll probably need to learn that.
Paul
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 18:28,
wrote: Hello,
I hope this is the correct place to ask this question. I have a desire to participate in python development in a particular area from my Windows host machine, but I am not finding any concise listing of the tool setup needed to fully participate, nor any detailed guidance on how to proceed when underlying code debugging is necessary.
I do know that some version of the MS VS20xx suite is necessary to begin. My initial attempts using the VS2019 Community Edition have been less than successful when it comes to debugging an underlying C library component
when
the starting program is python because I have not figured out how to use the VS2019 environment to do that.
So I would appreciate any RTFM / URL that can guide me in starting to participate, especially for guidance on debugging procedures for underlying C components when the initial program is a python script.
I have read most of the "Python Developers Guide" material, but there is not any Window-specific tooling information that I have seen there yet. What other tooling do I need besides a VS20xx environment?
I do have good experience in C programming, but not much in using VS20xx IDE's.
TIA for your gentle guidance in curing my ignorance.
Peter --