Hello, Le 21/09/2022 à 13:14, Petr Viktorin a écrit :
On 21. 09. 22 10:17, Baptiste Carvello wrote:
* mailing-list mode: there needs to be a *standardized* set of filters to access Core-Dev + PEPs (and only that). [...]
Do you have a proposal we could standardize? Open a PR on the devguide. You shouldn't need an official hat-wearer around, unless there's a disagreement.
I believe indeed that the devguide should provide complete guidance towards getting a python-dev equivalent using mailing-list mode, to avoid many users having to reinvent the wheel. I don't have enough experience to give such advice myself (yet).
But I don't think the goal is to make sure all people using the mailing list get the same set of posts. Different people have different interests.
That's exaggerated: often many people share common interests, and thus want to follow a common set of discussions. This is what makes up a discussion forum. Python-dev has served well its hundreds (or is it thousands) of users over all those years, so its perimeter must be sensible enough.
Only mirroring/archiving Core-Dev + PEPs also seems pretty arbitrary.
According to the devguide, "these are the Discourse equivalents to the python-dev mailing list". I believe many people want just that. This is also the perimeter that makes most sense for long term external archival, as it is likely to contain all major design discussions.
* RSS: the shortcomings I described in my august post [2] are still there. At the very least, the PSF needs to make sure that the age / length limits of the RSS files (both core-dev.rss and posts.rss) are *much* increased.
I'm not sure what the PSF can do here -- this sounds like it should be a feature request to Discourse.
Discourse could indeed make their RSS interface much friendlier. Alas, as I say in my previous message, a very useful feature request (per-category post feeds) has been lingering for 6 years. So I won't hold my breath. In the meantime, I suppose Discourse must have some instance configuration knobs, and it would make sense that the length of the RSS files can be changed there (being a very arbitrary limit). The PSF could then choose a more appropriate length just for their own instance (the current 25-post limit represents less than 24 hours; a few days instead would be nice).
I guess the mailing list mode is a better option if you don't want to miss anything. Is it lacking something that RSS provides, besides easier filtering?
There is room between not missing anything and having less than 24 hours of history available. Since you asked (but not a major point): RSS is accessible without registering an account. Cheers, Baptiste
[2] https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-dev@python.org/message/UZJ27G57...