BAW> I still think we may want to pull PyBSDDB into the standard distro, BAW> as a way to provide BDB api's > 1.85. The question is, what would BAW> this new module be called? I dislike "bsddb3" -- which I think BAW> PyBSDDB itself uses -- because it links against BDB 4.0. Guido> Good idea. Maybe call it berkeleydb? That's what Sleepycat Guido> calls it (there's no connection with the BSD Unix distribution Guido> AFAICT). Why can't it just be called bsddb? As far as I could tell tell, it provides a bsddb-compatible interface at the module level. The only change at the bsddb level is the addition of an extra object (db? I can't recall right now and have to get offline soon for the credit card machine so I can't pause to check ;-) which gives the programmer access to all the PyBSDDB magic. Skip