[Python-Dev] Re: Are "Batteries Included" still a Good Thing? [was: It's now time to deprecate the stdlib urllib module]

On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 11:52 AM Christopher Barker wrote:

On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 11:29 AM Paul Moore wrote:

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To be honest, I feel like I'm just reiterating stuff I've said before here, and I think the same is true of the points I'm responding to

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(I'm not *against* going over the debate again, it helps make sure people haven't changed their minds, but it's important to be clear that none of the practical facts have changed, if that is the case).

Maybe there's a way to make this discussion (it feels more like a discussion than debate at the moment) more productive by writing some things down. I'm not sure it's a PEP, but some kind of:

"policy for the stdlib" document in which we could capture the primary points of view, places where there's consensus, etc. would be helpful to keep us retreading this over and over again.

I suggest this without the bandwidth to actually shepherd the project, but if someone wants to, I think it would be a great idea.

Once https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-committers@python.org/thread/5E... is considered resolved, the next part of my "what *is* the stdlib" plan is to finally try to suss all of this out and more-or-less write a stdlib policy PEP so we stop talking about this. My guess it will be more of guidance about what we want the stdlib to be and thus guide what things belong in it. No ETA on that work since I also have four other big Python projects on the go right now whose work I am constantly alternating between. -Brett

-CHB

-- Christopher Barker, PhD (Chris)

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