On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Jeffrey Yasskin <jyasskin@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:15 PM, <glyph@divmod.com> wrote:
On 02:21 pm, murman@gmail.com wrote:
OTOH, I'd rather there be OOWTDI so whatever the consensus is is fine with me.
This strikes me as a gratuitous API change of the kind Guido was warning about in his recent post: "Don't change your APIs incompatibly when porting to Py3k"
I agree emphatically. Actually I think this is the most extreme case. The unit test stuff should be as stable as humanly possible between 2 and 3, moreso than any other library.
This is convincing for me. Move my +1 back to 3.1.
Same here; let's tread carefully here and not change this with 3.0. Starting to deprecate in 3.1 and killing in 3.3 would be soon enough. I like using only the assertKeyword variants, removing assert_, fail*, and assertEquals. However I don't like changing assertTrue and assertFalse to insist that the value is exactly True or False -- if you really care that much, let's add assertIs(x, y) which asserts that x and y are the same object. I also think that all tests should use the operator their name implies, e.g. assertEqual(x, y) should do something like if x == y: pass else: raise AssertionError(...) rather than if x != y: raise AssertionError(...) Someone please open a bug for this task. -- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)