On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 04:21:06PM +0000, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Hello,
Sorry for the little redundancy, I would like to underline Jean-Paul's suggestion here:
Le Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:05:12 +0000, exarkun a ??crit??:
I think that money can help in two ways in this case.
First, there are now a multitude of cloud hosting providers which will operate a slave machine for you. BuildBot has even begun to support this deployment use-case by allowing you to start up and shut down vms on demand to save on costs. Amazon's EC2 service is supported out of the box in the latest release.
I'm not a PSF member, but it seems to me that the PSF could ask Amazon (or any other virtual machine business anyway) to donate a small number of permanent EC2 instances in order to run buildslaves on.
[ ... ] I'm happy to provide VMs or shell access for Windows (XP, Vista, 7); Linux ia64; Linux x86; and Mac OS X. Others have made similar offers. The architectures supported by the cloud services don't really add anything (and generally don't have Mac OS X support, AFAIK). What we really need (IMO) is someone to dig into the tests to figure out which tests fail randomly and why, and to fix them on specific architectures that most of us don't personally use. This is hard work that is neither glamorous nor popular. I think the idea of paying a dedicated developer to make the CPython+buildbot tests reliable is better, although I would still be -0 on it (I don't think the PSF should be paying for this kind of thing at all). cheers, --titus -- C. Titus Brown, ctb@msu.edu