+1 to (3), I like the type error idea, too.
I don't care much about naming... but if I were to bikeshed this, I'd go for
isdataclass (like issubclass) isdatainstance (like isinstance)
On Nov 30, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Carl Meyer email@example.com wrote:
On 11/29/2017 05:02 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
I tried to look up the discussion but didn't find much except that you flagged this as an issue. To repeat, your concern is that isdataclass() applies to *instances*, not classes, which is how Eric has designed it, but you worry that either through the name or just because people don't read the docs it will be confusing. What do you suppose we do? I think making it work for classes as well as for instances would cause another category of bugs (confusion between cases where a class is needed vs. an instance abound in other situations -- we don't want to add to that). Maybe it should raise TypeError when passed a class (unless its metaclass is a dataclass)? Maybe it should be renamed to isdataclassinstance()? That's a mouthful, but I don't know how common the need to call this is, and people who call it a lot can define their own shorter alias.
Yeah, I didn't propose a specific fix because I think there are several options (all mentioned in this thread already), and I don't really have strong feelings about them:
- Keep the existing function and name, let it handle either classes or
instances. I agree that this is probably not the best option available, though IMO it's still marginally better than the status quo).
- Punt the problem by removing the function; don't add it to the public
API at all until we have demonstrated demand.
- Rename it to "is_dataclass_instance" (and maybe also keep a separate
"is_dataclass" for testing classes directly). (Then there's also the choice about raising TypeError vs just returning False if a function is given the wrong type; I think TypeError is better.)
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