On 05:42 pm, p.f.moore@gmail.com wrote:
2009/6/3 <glyph@divmod.com>:
So, here are my recommendations:
�1. Use the tracker for discussing tickets, so that it's easy to refer back to a previous point in the discussion, and so that people working on those tickets can easily find your commentary. �2. Use the mailing list for drawing attention to these discussions if they are of general interest, especially if the discussion is time- critical. �In this case, an announcement "You have six weeks to review ipaddr now until its inclusion is permanent, anyone interested please look at issue 3959." �3. If you have an opinion, put your +1/+0/-0/-1 on a line by itself at the top of your message, so that it's easy for newcomers to the discussion to get a general feel.
Mostly, I agree, but I definitely disagree, I'm afraid, on the use of the tracker for discussions. To keep track of discussions on a ticket, I have to personally keep a list of the tickets I'm interested in, check back regularly to see if there's anything new, and keep a mental note of where I've read up to so I know what's new. RSS would make this simpler, certainly, but I'm not sure about how I'd use it (it's not how I currently use RSS, so I'd have to mess round with my current setup to make it appropriate).
Email is delivered to me by default - I get anything new in my python-dev folder, and I can skip or read the discussion as I choose. I don't have to take action just to monitor things. (In other words, the default is for people to see the discussions, rather than the other way around.
A good point, but there are a couple of technical solutions to this problem, which, according to http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDocs/, have already been implemented. If you want to get email about new issues, subscribe to new-bugs- announce@mail.python.org. If you want to know about every message on every issue, subscribe to python-bugs-list@mail.python.org. But, frankly, I think it's a bad idea to subscribe to python-bugs-list for announcements. The whole point here is that there is simply too much going on in python development for anyone to reasonably keep track of at a low level. Guido himself has complained on numerous occasions of being too busy to monitor things closely. A better model is to subscribe to new-bugs-announce and selectively pay attention to the bugs which are interesting to you; and, when a discussion you're involved in gets interesting and becomes of more general interest, raise it on python-dev. (On the other hand, if you want to subscribe to get your own personal searchable archive, then by all means.)