I don't want to be paranoid, but are we putting any important information into SourceForge that we are not backing up elsewhere? I mean okay, we've all got CVS dumps, but if it went away (DOJ antitrust suit...) would we have backups of our patches, bugs, wish lists and so forth? I hope that's a criteria in deciding what services to move to SourceForge. I am in the business of preserving investments in data and of telling customers to avoid software that does not keep them in complete control of their data. SF makes me nervous that way.... -- Paul Prescod - Not encumbered by corporate consensus The calculus and the rich body of mathematical analysis to which it gave rise made modern science possible, but it was the algorithm that made the modern world possible. - The Advent of the Algorithm (pending), by David Berlinski