I have no opinion about scrapping IDLE and Tkinter, but if we don't, I think his concerns deserve addressing instead of being dismissed by wielding the CoC magic wand. Regards Antoine. Le 02/05/2018 à 23:41, Guido van Rossum a écrit :
So what do *you* think. Do you agree with the OP that Tkinter (and hence IDLE) should be scrapped?
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net <mailto:solipsis@pitrou.net>> wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2018 23:28:22 +0200 Antoine Pitrou <solipsis@pitrou.net <mailto:solipsis@pitrou.net>> wrote: > On Wed, 02 May 2018 21:24:07 +0000 > Brian Curtin <brian@python.org <mailto:brian@python.org>> wrote: > > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 16:55 Ivan Pozdeev via Python-Dev < > > python-dev@python.org <mailto:python-dev@python.org>> wrote: > > > > > As https://bugs.python.org/issue33257 <https://bugs.python.org/issue33257> and > > > https://bugs.python.org/issue33316 <https://bugs.python.org/issue33316> showed, Tkinter is broken, for both > > > Py2 and Py3, with both threaded and non-threaded Tcl, since 2002 at > > > least, and no-one gives a damn. > > > > > > This seems to be a testament that very few people are actually > > > interested in or are using it. > > > > > > If that's so, there's no use keeping it in the standard library -- if > > > anything, because there's not enough incentive and/or resources to > > > support it. And to avoid screwing people (=me) up when they have the > > > foolishness to think they can rely on it in their projects -- nowhere in > > > the docs it is said that the module is only partly functional. > > > > > > For the future, this is not how you communicate with the development > > mailing list of any open source software project. I would suggest reading > > https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ <https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/> for some pointers on how people > > typically behave around here in particular. > > Perhaps it would be more constructive to address the OP's point than to > play speech police.
To elaborate a bit: the OP, while angry, produced both a detailed analysis *and* a PR. It's normal to be angry when an advertised feature doesn't work and it makes you lose hours of work (or, even, forces you to a wholesale redesign). Producing a detailed analysis and a PR is more than most people will ever do.
Regards
Antoine.
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