On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 00:10:09 +1000 Nick Coghlan <ncoghlan@gmail.com> wrote:
It's OK if folks aren't interested in participating in the noisy early stages of that process - that's why the activity was long since moved out to a dedicated list. It's not OK to make the jump from "I don't consider participating in that to be the best possible use of my own time" to "it isn't worth doing".
Ok. As Stefan points out, exageration is a common rhetoric device - for the better or (mostly perhaps :-)) for the worse. Sorry if that *actually* offended some people. In this case, though, I was a bit miffed since I didn't notice that PEP appearing on python-ideas (or perhaps I already forget discussing it?), which made me frustrated that *perhaps* with less pointless drifting I would have seen it. Being one of the principal maintainers of the ssl module I was definitely interested on giving my opinion. Whether the time required to properly follow python-ideas is a productive involvement for the average core dev is another question. The problem I see with python-ideas is that it may select on free time more than on actual, concrete contribution... (note that python-list has a similar problem with some of its old-timers and regular ranters; the difference is that python-list has a ready alternative in StackOverflow, with perhaps higher-quality answers... it's less and less relevant in the grand scheme of things) Regards Antoine.