I'm +0 on this (reasons below), but since Guido already said no: I find this function pretty useful, as it serves to collapse ugly code, and I hate ugly python code. However, the name sucks. With your changes, 'divmod' doesn't describe it anymore. So I suggest you come up with a better name and offer it as a contribution to, say, the math module. In that case I would prefer to have the reverse function too. (The fact that using it with 2 args is equal to calling divmod is at most a funny fact. As Guido says, growing the library = good; growing the language = questionable) []s, |alo +---- -- Those who trade freedom for security lose both and deserve neither. -- http://www.laranja.org/ mailto:lalo@laranja.org pgp key: http://www.laranja.org/pessoal/pgp Eu jogo RPG! (I play RPG) http://www.eujogorpg.com.br/ GNU: never give up freedom http://www.gnu.org/