Several people argue for unbundling Tools/ and Demo/ in 1.6. I'd like to argue to leave them in. They're not especially big, and IMHO they are quite valuable, *especially* to the novice user. In fact, I'd like to argue that Demo/ should be promoted to the same status as Tools/ (by which I mean included in the Windows binary distribution). Unbundling Tools/ would mean unbundling IDLE, which IMHO would be a big strategic mistake. However, I wouldn't be against a cleanup of said directories. Some things should probably be removed (anything which uses stdwin), some of the code in classes is showing its age (notes about "being upgraded for Python 1.1" =), etc. That said, the tkinter/ directory is the best place to look for simple Tkinter code, and should be included, IMHO. --david