Here's another two skipped threads. Ditto Tim Lesher's "comments, criticisms, or rotten tomatoes" request. =) ------------------------------------- 2.3.5 and 2.4.1 release plans ------------------------------------- Anthony Baxter, Alex Martelli and Tim Peters squelched a bug where deepcopy failed on instances of types that lacked an ``__mro__`` attribute. The patch was pretty straight-forward (use ``inspect.getmro`` instead of ``cls.__mro__``), but coming up with a test case was hard -- creating a Python object that doesn't have an ``__mro__`` takes some complicated C code like that of Zope's ExtensionClass. Fortunately, John Lenton's c.l.py suggestion to simply raise an AttributeError for ``__mro__`` in ``__getattribute__`` properly ticked the bug, and 2.3.5 was cleared for release. Contributing Threads: - `2.3.5 and 2.4.1 release plans <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-February/thread.html>`__ ------------------------------------- Clarification sought about including a multidimensional array object into Python core ------------------------------------- Travis Oliphant and others looked into the issues of including an array object (like that of Numeric or numarray) in Python core. Guido seemed hesitant, concerned that as Numeric and numarray continue to co-exist, the array object wouldn't be the "best of breed" (one of the expectations for inclusion in Python core). Travis explained that most of the disagreements are over ufunc objects, not the basic array object itself, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to include the array object without the ufunc object if necessary. There was also some suggestion that, at least for basic arithmetic operations, Numeric and numarray mostly agree, so a stripped-down ufunc object for these operations might also be inclusion-worthy. In an aside that grew decidedly un-aside-ish, Paul F. Dubois, Guido and David Ascher explained why matrix should not inherit from arrayobject -- this would complicate __new__ and cause confusion when mixed operands (arrays and matrices) are given to a binary op like multiplication. Contributing Threads: - `Clarification sought about including a multidimensional array object into Python core <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-February/051474.html>`__ - `Numeric life as I see it <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2005-February/051493.html>`__ Steve Bethard -- You can wordify anything if you just verb it. --- Bucky Katt, Get Fuzzy