On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 06:31:03PM +0000, Brett Cannon wrote:
No one is saying people can't be upset and if you are ever upset there's something wrong; we're human beings after all. But those of us speaking up about the tone are saying that you can also wait until you're not so upset to write an email. This was never going to be resolved in an hour, so waiting an hour until you're in a better place to write an email that wasn't quite so inflammatory seems like a reasonable thing to ask.
Certainly!
I'm not defending Ivan's initial email. His tantrum *was* annoying, unreasonable, and unfair to those who do care about tkinter. He could have done better.
But *we* should be better too. Our response to Ivan has not been welcoming, and as a community we haven't lived up to our own standards, as we have piled onto him to express our rightous indignation:
1. Guido responded telling Ivan to calm down and work off his frustration elsewhere. And that's where things should have stopped, unless Ivan had persisted in his impoliteness.
2. Brian upped the ante by bringing the CoC into discussion.
3. Paul raised it again by describing Ivan's post as "offensive".
4. And now, Steve H has claimed that Ivan's initial post was bordering on "abusive".
We've gone from rightly treating Ivan's post as intemperate and impolite, and telling him to chill, to calling his post "offensive", to "abusive". (Next, I presume, someone will claim to be traumatised by Ivan's email.)
I for one hold my hand up, and will simply not respond the next time I am tempted to respond in this way. I do not wish to enter into discussion on
On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 4:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano