Josiah Carlson wrote:
I had hoped that there would be a response to my second (and I believe more applicable statement); "if the feature is really only useful for generally trivial cases *without* the feature, then making them even more trivial, I think, is a bit of over optimization."
I don't think "trivial" is the right word to use here, since it implies something that's of so little importance that it can be ignored. But the simple cases are precisely the ones where this wart hurts the most, so we can't ignore them. Arguments that a feature is undesirable because this or that workaround exists seem like post-hoc justifications to me. Think about it the other way around -- if writing to outer scopes had been straightforward from the beginning, would you be arguing for the *removal* of that ability? Would it even have occurred to anyone to do such a thing? -- Greg