I hope you will not mind too much if I ask a small favor. Sorry for this off-topic post. I am working on a new design for displaying online conversations. (Some of you saw this at PyCon.) I'm conducting a short survey to gather some opinions on the current design. If you have just a few minutes to spare, would you please visit: http://zesty.ca/threadmap/pydev.cgi You'll see a new way of looking at this discussion list that you may find pretty interesting. I look forward to learning what you think of it. I am very grateful for your time and assistance. (If you reply to this message, please reply to me only -- I don't want to clutter up python-dev with lots of off-topic messages.) -- Ping