Topic suggestions from the PyCon feedback
Those of you on python-checkins will have noticed the recent fiddling around with the feedback from PyCon. I'd like to draw the attention of the python-dev readership to the answers for the question "What 3 topics should have been covered at PyCon?" I split out core Python and web-related topics into their own lists. Here's the core Python list: Usage of new/advanced python features (12) Python Best Practices (3) Design Patterns in Python (3) Anything Alex Martelli wants to talk about. (3) Advanced Python: metaclasses, descriptors, decorators (3) Strategies for integrating C and Python (2) Problems with python (2) Iterators and Generators (2) Ways to improve performance of Python code (1) Standard library gems/ unsung modules (1) Python Language perspective from non-Guido PEP members (1) Py3K (1) More on Python internals (1) Language howtos (I really enjoyed Alex Martelli's talk last year on itertools) (1) Getting started hacking python source (1) Decimal for Experts (1) Better Development Practices with Python (1) Being more productive with Python (1) In the first entry, "new/advanced features" = a fuzzy set containing generators, iterators, metaclasses, __slots__, and decorators. When 2.5 is released, this set will probably grow to include the 'with' statement's context managers and coroutines. Some of the other entries in the above list overlap with the first entry. The conclusion I draw from these results: intermediate- or advanced-level topics of program design are not covered enough, whether in the Python documentation, in published books and articles, or in PyCon talks. Please feel free to mine the above list, or the rest of the PyCon feedback, for topic ideas. In particular: if you're going to attend PyCon 2007, EuroPython, or some other conference (even a non-Python one), please consider submitting a talk proposal covering one of the above topics. Such presentations would find a receptive audience, I think. --amk
On Mar 13, 2006, at 7:22 PM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: ...
Design Patterns in Python (3) Anything Alex Martelli wants to talk about. (3) ... Language howtos (I really enjoyed Alex Martelli's talk last year on itertools) (1)
Wow, I'm blushing;-). I promise and swear I'll do the utmost to attend Pycon 2007 -- this year, what between work-related issues AND the 2nd edition of the Nutshell, it was, alas, really unfeasible:-(. The *ONE* thing I dislike about working in the US is vacations -- I get about half of what I would expect in Europe, and that's with my employer being reasonably generous... in practice, given I NEED some time to go visit family and friends back in Italy, this means I can't really take vacations to do conferences, but rather I must convince my boss that conference X is worth my time (basically, this means that by attending I can hope to help *HIRE* somebody -- otherwise, I'm fighting uphill!-).
In the first entry, "new/advanced features" = a fuzzy set containing generators, iterators, metaclasses, __slots__, and decorators. When 2.5 is released, this set will probably grow to include the 'with' statement's context managers and coroutines. Some of the other entries in the above list overlap with the first entry.
Wow, I'm RARIN' for a go at that -- I did the former more than once, and 'with' and coroutines sound right up my alley -- if I get any chance to practice them, I might even be able to present related *patterns*...;-)
In particular: if you're going to attend PyCon 2007, EuroPython, or some other conference (even a non-Python one), please consider submitting a talk proposal covering one of the above topics. Such presentations would find a receptive audience, I think.
A-yup. Most presentations cover specific project, which is fine, but there's an unsatisfied demand for talks on how best to use certain language features, and design patterns around them -- I suspect that's a big reason why I was singled out by name (that kind of thing is generally what I address in my talks). Alex
Op ma, 13-03-2006 te 19:52 -0800, schreef Alex Martelli:
The *ONE* thing I dislike about working in the US is vacations -- I get about half of what I would expect in Europe, and that's with my employer being reasonably generous... in practice, given I NEED some time to go visit family and friends back in Italy, this means I can't really take vacations to do conferences, but rather I must convince my boss that conference X is worth my time [...].
Well, I'm sure (from a previous c.l.py encounter) that you know enough about (European) civilisation to explain history to an American savage (~= employer)? ;-) -- Jan Claeys
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 14:22, A.M. Kuchling wrote:
The conclusion I draw from these results: intermediate- or advanced-level topics of program design are not covered enough, whether in the Python documentation, in published books and articles, or in PyCon talks. Please feel free to mine the above list, or the rest of the PyCon feedback, for topic ideas.
In particular: if you're going to attend PyCon 2007, EuroPython, or some other conference (even a non-Python one), please consider submitting a talk proposal covering one of the above topics. Such presentations would find a receptive audience, I think.
Just as another data point - at OSDC (australian open source
conference) I've presented a "What's New In Python" talk the two
years the conference has run, and it's gotten good responses from
the audience. It's fairly brief race through the world - only 1/2
an hour - but I try to hit all the good points.
--
Anthony Baxter
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