[GVW]

One of the students in my class at the Space Telescope Science Institute ("Hubble R Us") last week brought up an interesting point: if "abbc"[-1] is "c", and if "abbc".replace("b", "x", 1) is "axbc", then shouldn't "abbc".replace("b", "x", -1) be "abxc" (i.e. negative numbers replace the *last* occurrences of the value)? Same argument for "split", etc.

Turns out that "abbc".replace("b", "x", -1) is "axxc" (i.e. negative arguments are ignored). I would have expected this to raise a ValueError, if anything. Is there a reason for this behavior? Is it worth making replace, split, etc. interpret negative indices in the same way as indexing does?

Dubious hypergeneralization. The thing is that this parameter, called maxsplit, is not really an index -- it's a count. Implementing this right would be tricky, because you'd really have to search for matches from the end (in order to make sense if there are overlapping matches possible, as in "abbbc".replace("bb", "BB", -1)). Where would this be useful? Is it ever useful for numbers smaller than -1? If all you typically want is replace the last occurrence, the rfind() method is your friend. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

[GVW]

One of the students in my class at the Space Telescope Science Institute ("Hubble R Us") last week brought up an interesting point: if "abbc"[-1] is "c", and if "abbc".replace("b", "x", 1) is "axbc", then shouldn't "abbc".replace("b", "x", -1) be "abxc" (i.e. negative numbers replace the *last* occurrences of the value)? Same argument for "split", etc.

Turns out that "abbc".replace("b", "x", -1) is "axxc" (i.e. negative arguments are ignored). I would have expected this to raise a ValueError, if anything. Is there a reason for this behavior? Is it worth making replace, split, etc. interpret negative indices in the same way as indexing does?

Dubious hypergeneralization. The thing is that this parameter, called maxsplit, is not really an index -- it's a count. Implementing this right would be tricky, because you'd really have to search for matches from the end (in order to make sense if there are overlapping matches possible, as in "abbbc".replace("bb", "BB", -1)). Where would this be useful? Is it ever useful for numbers smaller than -1? If all you typically want is replace the last occurrence, the rfind() method is your friend. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)