Since most Python users on Windows don't have any use for them, I trimmed the Python 2.0b2 installer by leaving out the debug-build .lib, .pyd, .exe and .dll files. If you want them, they're available in a separate zip archive; read the Windows Users notes at http://www.pythonlabs.com/products/python2.0/download_python2.0b2.html for info and a download link. If you don't already know *why* you might want them, trust me: you don't want them <wink>. they-don't-even-make-good-paperweights-ly y'rs - tim