Latest version. Adds isctrl() and ismeta() functions (because I use them...) Um. What's the checkin procedure for library modules? And do I have permissions to do it? -- <a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr">Eric S. Raymond</a> "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." -- Patrick Henry, speech of June 5 1788
On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
Latest version. Adds isctrl() and ismeta() functions (because I use them...)
Um. What's the checkin procedure for library modules?
Guido has to give his blessing -- that he finds this useful and appropriate for the Python library. He does that using his own criteria and feedback from people here. For example, I'm "+0" on it. (meaning that it seems okay, but I can also live without it) The actual mechanics are outlined at SourceForge: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=5470
And do I have permissions to do it?
Nope. There are ten people with checkin privs: http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=5470 Five of them are admins (Barry, Fred, Guido, Jeremy, Tim). They use <whatever> policy to determine whether a given person should become a SF project member. That policy is probably just a gut feeling rather than concrete rules, so I can't say "X, Y, and Z." I also don't know what kinds of policies that they are asserting on people with privs. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/
Greg seems to understand this process better than the admins -- or at least he can explain it quickly and clearly :-). I apologize for the rather confused state of affairs. We'll clean up the process and document it soon.
"GS" == Greg Stein <gstein@lyra.org> writes: GS> On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Eric S. Raymond wrote: Latest version. Adds isctrl() and ismeta() functions (because I use them...)
Um. What's the checkin procedure for library modules?
GS> Guido has to give his blessing -- that he finds this useful and GS> appropriate for the Python library. He does that using his own GS> criteria and feedback from people here. I think I can safely speak for the admins when I say that we're not sure what the process is other than securing Guido's blessing. We need to work out a clearer policy, but that will have to wait until Guido gets back from his honeymoon. Any new checkins we are making are limited for the most part to modules we've already gotten his blessing for. There won't be another alpha release until he returns, so it's not like we have to worry about getting new code in before a code freeze. GS> For example, I'm "+0" on it. (meaning that it seems okay, but I GS> can also live without it) I'm in the same boat. GS> There are ten people with checkin privs: GS> http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=5470 GS> Five of them are admins (Barry, Fred, Guido, Jeremy, Tim). They GS> use <whatever> policy to determine whether a given person should GS> become a SF project member. That policy is probably just a gut GS> feeling rather than concrete rules, so I can't say "X, Y, and GS> Z." I also don't know what kinds of policies that they are GS> asserting on people with privs. Another policy that needs to be defined. "<whatever>" is surprisingly close to what we actually have written down in our policies and procedures manual. I expect we will arrive at a policy where people own pieces of the library and are free to maintain it. Guido will probably retain control over what modules come and go. -- Jeremy Hylton <http://www.python.org/~jeremy/>
Jeremy Hylton <jeremy@beopen.com>:
Another policy that needs to be defined. "<whatever>" is surprisingly close to what we actually have written down in our policies and procedures manual. I expect we will arrive at a policy where people own pieces of the library and are free to maintain it. Guido will probably retain control over what modules come and go.
Pretty much as I expected. OK. Let us know when things settle out a little. -- <a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr">Eric S. Raymond</a> Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops. -- Noah Webster
"JH" == Jeremy Hylton <jeremy@beopen.com> writes:
JH> I think I can safely speak for the admins when I say that JH> we're not sure what the process is other than securing Guido's JH> blessing. We need to work out a clearer policy, but that will JH> have to wait until Guido gets back from his honeymoon. Any JH> new checkins we are making are limited for the most part to JH> modules we've already gotten his blessing for. My suggestion would be to upload to the SourceForge patch manager, any patches or code you care about that you don't want us to lose track of. Things get buried in my inbox pretty easily, but at least with the patch manager, we've got a record of it, and can eventually assign a developer to tracking it. -Barry
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