At 07:57 PM 10/20/2005 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:

(Sorry for the long post -- there just wasn't anything you said that I felt could be left unquoted. :-)

Wow. You've brought up an awful lot of stuff I want to respond to, about the nature of frameworks, AOP, Chandler, PEP 342, software deployment, etc. But I know you're busy, and the draft I was working on in reply to this has gotten simply huge and still unfinished, so I think I should just turn it all into a blog article on "Why Frameworks Are Evil And What We Can Do To Stop Them". :) I don't think I've exaggerated anything, though. I think maybe you're perceiving more vehemence than I actually have on the issue. Context variables are a very small thing and I've not been arguing that they're a big one. In the scope of the coming Global War On Frameworks, they are pretty small potatoes. :)