Re: [Python-checkins] python/dist/src/Misc NEWS,1.660,1.661
Jack, please change the name of that module before it's too late. Something like pkgman would much better fit the purpose (or packman if you feel that it should be a funny name ;-). jackjansen@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Update of /cvsroot/python/python/dist/src/Misc In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv21478
Modified Files: NEWS Log Message: Added notes about pimp and bundlebuilder to the Mac section.
Index: NEWS =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/python/python/dist/src/Misc/NEWS,v retrieving revision 1.660 retrieving revision 1.661 diff -C2 -d -r1.660 -r1.661 *** NEWS 14 Feb 2003 19:29:21 -0000 1.660 --- NEWS 16 Feb 2003 23:00:53 -0000 1.661 *************** *** 359,362 **** --- 359,370 ---- - Type Carbon.File.FSCatalogInfo and supporting methods have been implemented. This also makes macfs.FSSpec.SetDates() work again. + + - There is a new module pimp, the package install manager for Python, and + accompanying applet PackageManager. These allow you to easily download + and install pretested extension packages either in source or binary + form. Only in MacPython-OSX. + + - Applets are now built with bundlebuilder in MacPython-OSX, which should make + them more robust and also provides a path towards BuildApplication.
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On Monday, Feb 17, 2003, at 09:42 Europe/Amsterdam, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Jack, please change the name of that module before it's too late. Something like pkgman would much better fit the purpose (or packman if you feel that it should be a funny name ;-).
Hmm, you're the second person to state that the name pimp isn't a good idea. I tend to like names with a bit of a joke in them, and there's more Python-related names that do this (idle, piddle). Does anyone else have an opinion on the matter? -- Jack Jansen, <Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman
Hmm, you're the second person to state that the name pimp isn't a good idea. I tend to like names with a bit of a joke in them, and there's more Python-related names that do this (idle, piddle).
Does anyone else have an opinion on the matter?
+1 on pimp from here :) Mark.
Wonderful, split votes:-) I'm going to leave the name at pimp for the time being (Python 2.3, Mac-only), and after 2.3 I'll probably write a PEP on the subject and come up with another name. Note that "pimp" is the name of the underlying module only, the user interface which people would normally use is PackageManager. Pimp can be invoked as a commandline tool too, but this is only for die-hard unix hackers anyway, and I'll just chance it they can see the humor. And, yes, I guess it's a cultural thing. Here in Amsterdam a pimp is a pretty respectable profession. Definitely higher standing than a cab driver, somewhat on par with a coffeeshop owner:-) -- Jack Jansen, <Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman
[Jack Jansen]
Hmm, you're the second person to state that the name pimp isn't a good idea. I tend to like names with a bit of a joke in them, and there's more Python-related names that do this (idle, piddle).
Does anyone else have an opinion on the matter?
+1 on pimp. -Brett
Brett Cannon wrote:
[Jack Jansen]
Hmm, you're the second person to state that the name pimp isn't a good idea. I tend to like names with a bit of a joke in them, and there's more Python-related names that do this (idle, piddle).
Does anyone else have an opinion on the matter?
+1 on pimp.
I am surprised. piddle and idle are OK, since they are harmless, but I do believe that getting Python packages via a "pimp" is a bit over the top. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Software directly from the Source (#1, Feb 17 2003)
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I am surprised. piddle and idle are OK, since they are harmless, but I do believe that getting Python packages via a "pimp" is a bit over the top.
-- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com
But idle is a waste of time and piddle leaves smelly stains on the carpet - at least with a pimp you get something that's fun to play with ;) Dave LeBlanc Seattle, WA USA
[M.-A. Lemburg]
Brett Cannon wrote:
+1 on pimp.
I am surprised. piddle and idle are OK, since they are harmless, but I do believe that getting Python packages via a "pimp" is a bit over the top.
I just don't view it as that insulting. In America it has become a slang term to mean something is cool; "That's so pimp!" -Brett
Brett Cannon wrote:
[M.-A. Lemburg]
Brett Cannon wrote:
+1 on pimp.
I am surprised. piddle and idle are OK, since they are harmless, but I do believe that getting Python packages via a "pimp" is a bit over the top.
I just don't view it as that insulting. In America it has become a slang term to mean something is cool; "That's so pimp!"
I don't think that's going to fly... just think of a user manual: "Please use the pimp for your platform to download piddle from the Internet. After successful operation, click on idle to start off into working mode." Must be a cultural thing... -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Software directly from the Source (#1, Feb 17 2003)
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[M.-A. Lemburg]
Brett Cannon wrote:
[M.-A. Lemburg]
Brett Cannon wrote:
I don't think that's going to fly... just think of a user manual: "Please use the pimp for your platform to download piddle from the Internet. After successful operation, click on idle to start off into working mode."
It probably won't in the end. But I still think it is funny.
Must be a cultural thing...
Or just me still acting like a college student. -Brett
"Jack Jansen" <Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl> wrote in message news:C93F5CF5-425E-11D7-BE39-0030655234CE@cwi.nl...
On Monday, Feb 17, 2003, at 09:42 Europe/Amsterdam, M.-A. Lemburg
wrote:
Jack, please change the name of that module before it's too late. Something like pkgman would much better fit the purpose (or packman if you feel that it should be a funny name ;-).
Packman is cute and clever.
Hmm, you're the second person to state that the name pimp isn't a good idea. I tend to like names with a bit of a joke in them, and there's more Python-related names that do this (idle, piddle).
Does anyone else have an opinion on the matter?
-10 Ok, I'll be uncool. To me, a pimp is a type of rapist. Hardly something to joke about. In much of America, asking a female employee to use 'pimp' to procure something might well be an invitation to file a sex-harassment lawsuit. To both me and my wife (who would be insulted if so asked), the name says 'this is a college frat/nerd prank product, not for serious business/professional use". Terry
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003, Terry Reedy wrote:
Ok, I'll be uncool. To me, a pimp is a type of rapist. Hardly something to joke about. In much of America, asking a female employee to use 'pimp' to procure something might well be an invitation to file a sex-harassment lawsuit. To both me and my wife (who would be insulted if so asked), the name says 'this is a college frat/nerd prank product, not for serious business/professional use".
Yeah, I was wavering, but now I think I'm -1, too. In particular, I suspect that "pimp" would be far more likely to bother women. There don't seem to be many women on python-dev; perhaps we should ask on c.l.py. OTOH, I disagree with Terry about pimp == rapist, but that's a debate for another forum. -- Aahz (aahz@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Register for PyCon now! http://www.python.org/pycon/reg.html
Goodness, what a funny bunch you Yanks are <0.1 wink> And-like-we-aren't ly, Mark.
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