RE: [Python-Dev] Re: 2.4 news reaches interesting places
Michael Hudson wrote:
Anthony's Australian, people expect this sort of thing from him :)
As another Australian, I think that "Making Python Not Suck" implies that if you don't do extra things, Python Sucks. This is not a good thing IMO. "Making Python Suck Less" would be even worse. How about "Python - You Can Have Your Cake And Eat It Too". Tim Delaney
The goal here is to make Python better known and to counter some of the prevalent myths. One way to accomplish this goal is to publish literate technical articles with real content including performance measurements and pointers to the code. Perhaps Guido could be a real-life N. Bourbaki and co-publish with developers. A significant issue is: where to publish. Certainly publishing in the technical society journals (ACM & IEEE CS) would make sense. Software Practice and Experience would also be good. Likewise DDJ and Game Developer Magazine. But I suspect that much of our target audience will be missed if we limit ourselves to these journals. We also need to get articles placed in the mass market computer mags. And we need to build an editorial relationship with the mass market journals so that when X says they think "Python is slow" there's some they know they can call for a truth-squad quote. And, parenthetically, I continue to be amazed at the number of projects that use Python, but do it in stealth-mode and view it as their silver-bullet and competative edge. I wish more people would publish their experience.
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004, Dennis Allison wrote:
And, parenthetically, I continue to be amazed at the number of projects that use Python, but do it in stealth-mode and view it as their silver-bullet and competative edge. I wish more people would publish their experience.
http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html -- Aahz (aahz@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ "19. A language that doesn't affect the way you think about programming, is not worth knowing." --Alan Perlis
On Friday 10 December 2004 06:25, Delaney, Timothy C (Timothy) wrote:
Michael Hudson wrote:
Anthony's Australian, people expect this sort of thing from him :)
As another Australian, I think that "Making Python Not Suck" implies that if you don't do extra things, Python Sucks.
This is not a good thing IMO.
"Making Python Suck Less" would be even worse.
Don't worry - it will have a nice friendly title by the time I present it. I'm currently aiming for OSCON, which isn't until August. It's going to be aimed at people who _know_ Python, but aren't necessarily experts, and focus not just on performance, but maintainable and sane code (for instance, not many people seem to realise that __del__ methods are almost always not the right answer to a problem).
How about "Python - You Can Have Your Cake And Eat It Too".
Nah - I have a bunch of ideas kicking around in my head, something will pop out. I doubt I'll ever be able to top the title of my pycon talk, though... Anthony
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