Proposal: can we have a python-dev-announce mailing list?

As people may have noticed (or possibly not:-) I've been rather inactive on python-dev the last year or so, due to being completely inundated with other work. Too bad that I've missed all the interesting discussions on Python 3000, but I'm bound to catch up some time later this year:-). BUT: what I also missed are all the important announcements, such as new releases, the switch to svn, and a couple more (I think). I know I would be much helped with a moderated python-dev-announce mailing list, which would be only low-volume, time-critical announcements for people developing Python. Even during times when I am actively following python-dev it would be handy to have important announcements coming in in a separate mailbox in stead of buried under design discussions and such... -- Jack Jansen, <Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman

On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 10:29:37PM +0100, Jack Jansen wrote:
I know I would be much helped with a moderated python-dev-announce mailing list, which would be only low-volume
http://www.google.com/search?q=python-dev+summary+site%3Amail.python.org Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmann http://phd.pp.ru/ phd@phd.pp.ru Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN.

On 3-nov-2005, at 22:36, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 10:29:37PM +0100, Jack Jansen wrote:
I know I would be much helped with a moderated python-dev-announce mailing list, which would be only low-volume
http://www.google.com/search?q=python-dev+summary+site% 3Amail.python.org
Hmm. I wouldn't mind if it was push in stead of pull, I wouldn't mind if it was in the right order, and I wouldn't mind if itwas more concise:-) But: I'll just wait to see whether more people chime in that they'd like this, or that I'm alone... -- Jack Jansen, <Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman

Jack Jansen wrote:
Hmm. I wouldn't mind if it was push in stead of pull, I wouldn't mind if it was in the right order, and I wouldn't mind if itwas more concise:-)
But: I'll just wait to see whether more people chime in that they'd like this, or that I'm alone...
I'm -1 on such a list. If it existed, people could complain "why wasn't this announced properly". So the "blame" would be on people who failed to give proper notice, instead of on the people who did not care enough to follow the entire discussion. More specifically, I'm sure I would have forgotten to post about the svn switchover to python-dev-announce, just as I failed to post to comp.lang.python.announce. This is all volunteer work. Regards, Martin

Even when they are on the ball, the summaries generally occur one week after the discussion/execution happens. That's not so much in the 'time-critical' aspect which, I would imagine, is about as important as the 'low-volume' aspect. - Josiah Oleg Broytmann <phd@oper.phd.pp.ru> wrote:
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 10:29:37PM +0100, Jack Jansen wrote:
I know I would be much helped with a moderated python-dev-announce mailing list, which would be only low-volume
http://www.google.com/search?q=python-dev+summary+site%3Amail.python.org
Oleg. -- Oleg Broytmann http://phd.pp.ru/ phd@phd.pp.ru Programmers don't die, they just GOSUB without RETURN. _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/jcarlson%40uci.edu

>> I know I would be much helped with a moderated python-dev-announce >> mailing list, which would be only low-volume Oleg> http://www.google.com/search?q=python-dev+summary+site%3Amail.python.org That works up to a point, however the python-dev summaries only come out once every couple of weeks, so probably aren't going to catch important stuff that comes and goes with less than a two-week lifespan. Alerts that machines are going down for maintenance fall into this category. Also, I think the cvs->svn switch probably didn't take more than a few days once the ball got rolling. I think Martin announced the demise of the SF repository around 20 October, with a cutover date of 26 October. Skip

I know I would be much helped with a moderated python-dev-announce mailing list, which would be only low-volume, time-critical announcements for people developing Python. Even during times when I am actively following python-dev it would be handy to have important announcements coming in in a separate mailbox in stead of buried under design discussions and such...
Firstly, my apologies for the current delay in summaries, which exacerbates this problem (although others are right when they say that things sometimes happen too fast even for on-time summaries). A while back there was talk about a mailing list for PEP changes and the solution was instead to use the "topic" feature of mailman, essentially creating a subset-mailing-list. Would something like this be feasible for this? (I don't really know enough how how the topic feature can be used to know if it is workable or not). I presume that this would still need some sort of action from the poster (e.g. including a tag somewhere), but it would probably be easier for people to remember to do that than cross-post to another list entirely. =Tony.Meyer
participants (6)
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"Martin v. Löwis"
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Jack Jansen
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Josiah Carlson
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Oleg Broytmann
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skip@pobox.com
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Tony Meyer