On Jan 28, 2008 8:00 PM, Steve Holden <steve@holdenweb.com> wrote:

I wish this thread could be truncated. It's got me going round and round. I'm completely floored, and will doubtless end up barking mad - you know, like a ceil.

Me too. All the arguments have been repeated over and over. It really isn't worth more energy at this point; I see a use for trunc() separate from int() and I really don't care if Raymond doesn't see it. Let's move trunc() to the math module and be done with it, leaving round() a built-in with both the one- and two-argument versions intact. PS. There's something wrong with Raymond's mailer that creates a thread in gmail whenever he responds. I suspect it's not correctly adding an In-reply-to header. That makes the thread feel much more disconnected than most, because often the quoted text is in a different thread. -- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

Jon Ribbens wrote:

On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 08:07:21PM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:

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PS. There's something wrong with Raymond's mailer that creates a thread in gmail whenever he responds. I suspect it's not correctly adding an In-reply-to header. That makes the thread feel much more disconnected than most, because often the quoted text is in a different thread.

His mails don't have any indication they're a reply at all - not even so much as a "Re: " in the Subject. Even Outlook Express isn't *that* broken; I suspect he's not actually using the 'reply' button in his mailer.

Raymond, I don;t know why everyone's talking about you as though you weren't reading the thread and able to answer questions. Though I *have* sometimes wondered why your posts lack attributions for the quotes. I see from your headers you have, at least some of the time, been posting via gmane using "mirapoint webmail direct", whatever that is. Perhaps that's the problem? sticking-with-t'bird-despite-its-faults-ly y'rs - steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/

On Jan 28, 2008 8:00 PM, Steve Holden <steve@holdenweb.com> wrote:

I wish this thread could be truncated. It's got me going round and round. I'm completely floored, and will doubtless end up barking mad - you know, like a ceil.

Me too. All the arguments have been repeated over and over. It really isn't worth more energy at this point; I see a use for trunc() separate from int() and I really don't care if Raymond doesn't see it. Let's move trunc() to the math module and be done with it, leaving round() a built-in with both the one- and two-argument versions intact. PS. There's something wrong with Raymond's mailer that creates a thread in gmail whenever he responds. I suspect it's not correctly adding an In-reply-to header. That makes the thread feel much more disconnected than most, because often the quoted text is in a different thread. -- --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

Jon Ribbens wrote:

On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 08:07:21PM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:

...

PS. There's something wrong with Raymond's mailer that creates a thread in gmail whenever he responds. I suspect it's not correctly adding an In-reply-to header. That makes the thread feel much more disconnected than most, because often the quoted text is in a different thread.

His mails don't have any indication they're a reply at all - not even so much as a "Re: " in the Subject. Even Outlook Express isn't *that* broken; I suspect he's not actually using the 'reply' button in his mailer.

Raymond, I don;t know why everyone's talking about you as though you weren't reading the thread and able to answer questions. Though I *have* sometimes wondered why your posts lack attributions for the quotes. I see from your headers you have, at least some of the time, been posting via gmane using "mirapoint webmail direct", whatever that is. Perhaps that's the problem? sticking-with-t'bird-despite-its-faults-ly y'rs - steve -- Steve Holden +1 571 484 6266 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC http://www.holdenweb.com/