Just noted (that's Just-the-person, not me-just-noting:-) that on the Mac time.strftime() can blow up with an access violation if you pass silly values to it (such as 9 zeroes). Does anyone know enough of the ANSI standard to tell me how strftime should behave with out-of-range values? I.e. should I report this as a bug to MetroWerks or should we rig up time.strftime() to check that all the values are in range? -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen@oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/ ++++